Derp

Introduction

This page is to highlight the derp of Flerfs who aren't important enough to get their own page. For evidence of the globe, go to https://mctoon.net/. MCToon has a decent collection of evidence of all kinds of stuff concerning the globe.

Sydney to Santiago

A user called Stopstalkingmenarokkurai (now madlionmuayboran) claims that the shortest path between Sydney, Australia, and Santiago, Chile, goes over Antarctica.

Here are the different routes between Sydney and Santiago. As anyone can see the shortest route does not go over Antarctica.

Critical Think took that flight and filmed a time lapse.

Seasons

The same flerf also doesn't understand seasons.

NASA has a good explanation suitable for kids.

That guy is so stupid, he thinks that earth's tilt changes to cause the seasons when literally every explanation in existence, tells him the tilt remains the same and Earth moves to the other side of the sun.

Literally the second sentence in the illustration states Earth rotates on its axis as it orbits the sun, but the axis always points in the same direction. He asks how often Earth's axis changes, when every explanation states that seasons are caused by earth moving to the other side of the sun while keeping the same tilt. Then accuses me of not reading my sources, while the sources agree with me and disagree with him.

I even googled it for him, and to no one's surprise, Google agrees with me.

Axial tilt

To make it even clearer I added a picture showing both Solstices in one picture.

You can find an animated version here

He managed to get dumber. Now he thinks that earth is tidally locked, because the moon is.

Discord Derp

A flerf by the name of FlatEarthRanger90 posted a meme which compares flat earth evidence with globe evidence according to him.

Horizon

High Altitude Footage

Mr Sensible launched a balloon with a narrow angle cam to show the curvature. There were some feeble attempts to debunk his footage.

Higher contrast to make the curve more visible.

Ships beyond the horizon

Flerfs think that you can bring back boats that are beyond the horizon by zooming in. They only use boats that are too small to see and are in front of the horizon and zoom in on those completely oblivious that it's not what was asked for.

Here are some screenshots from a video where someone zooms in on ships and demonstrates that by zooming you won't see more of the ship behind the horizon. As everyone but flerfs can clearly see, zooming in does not show the part of the ship hidden by the horizon.

Some flerfs are so stupid they think that the magnitude of the zoom depends on how long you zoom in. How long you need to zoom is completely irrelevant, it just depends on much you zoom in. You can quickly go the maximum zoom, there is no difference to zooming in slowly.

Here is a screenshot to show the difference between a ship behind the horizon and a ship in front of it.

To make it very clear. We are asking for a video where a boat like the one in the bottom image on the left appears like the one on the right by simply zooming in. If earth was flat and zooming worked the way flerfs think it does, there would be a video of someone zooming in on a ship that's partially obstructed bringing the obstructed part back into view. Of course all we ever get are boats too small to see, becoming visible by being magnified by the zoom.

Small boats

Flerfs like to use boats that are too small to see as evidence that you can bring back boats blocked by the horizon. As you can see the boat is simply too small, and zooming just makes it appear larger. It doesn't change how much is blocked as seen with the ships above.

Some people are so stupid they think that zooming in for longer means you can see further. The distance to the boat didn't change. It's not suddenly 30 miles away because someone zoomed for 30 seconds. Also, the horizon was visible the entire time.

Pic Gaspard

Another thing that flerfs like to bring up is long distance photography like the photo of Pic Gaspard.

Of course they completely ignore viewer height and atmospheric conditions. Another thing they never do is to compare the observations with flat earth predictions.

The photographer themselves show that the observation is only possible with favorable weather conditions.

To his left, other peaks of the Alps we also seen. Refractive favorable circumstances allowed to view some other peaks, even that more distant than the Barre des Ecrins. Pic Gaspard, 443 Km, is what has given us this time the brand new World Record of distant photograph of landscapes in our planet.

Sun glare

Flerfs also like to zoom in on the sun that hasn't set yet, and claim they brought it back. As anyone smarter than flerfs can see, the sun didn't set yet, not even the glare is below the horizon. Another thing people smarter than flerfs notice is that the zoomed in frame has a different color. That is caused by the camera adjusting its brightness, removing a lot of the glare.

To answer the flerf's questions, the sun was entirely visible, while the boat was simply to small to see, but wasn't blocked by the horizon, and thus not brought back from behind the horizon.

For comparison Wolfie6020 filmed the sun with two cameras at the same time, once zoomed out and once zoomed in. As everyone but flerfs can see, zooming in doesn't change how much you see of the sun.

Lake Pontchartrain bridge

Flerfs somehow think that a curved bridge means that earth is flat, because they use some Lego towers that show a table not curving. I added some lines to show that the causeway is curving, but the towers aren't. The photo of the causeway also shows that cameras change the shape of objects. In this case the zoom lens exaggerated the curve of the bridge. That's why the humps of the bridge seem so steep, when they actually aren't that steep.

Oil rigs

According to madlionmuayburan you can't know that the oil rigs are obstructed until you zoom past them, which according to him should remove obstruction, even though that's physically impossible. There is nothing to expected from someone who can't even understand how seasons work on the globe.

Photography

Zooming

Some flerfs think that you can zoom past curvature and that you can only know whether something is blocked by curvature if zoom past curvature. That's of course absolute bullshit. Zoom is a change in focal length, it cannot zoom past objects.

I going to demonstrate that it is not possible to bring back something, that is blocked, by zooming with some photos of a lighthouse taken with different zooms from an article by Jack Howard.

As anyone can see, the portions that are blocked remain blocked, as was also the case with the ships blocked by the curvature. You can't even zoom past the plants in the foreground and some flerfs think that you could zoom past curvature and even demanding that you need to zoom past curvature as evidence that something blocked by curvature is blocked by curvature.

I made my own observation with a bottle behind a box. As anyone but madlionmuayboran can see, zooming in didn't change how much is obstructed. So according to his logic, it hasn't been shown that the bottle is behind the box, as it's not possible to zoom past the box.

Focal length

The focal length is explained in an article by Angela Nicholson and Alex Summersby.

In a very simple lens containing just one element, the focal length is the distance in millimetres between the focal plane and the centre of the element when the lens is focused at infinity. In a film camera, the focal plane is the film; in a digital camera, it's the light-receptive surface of the sensor.

Modern lenses are much more complex than a single element, but they still have an optical centre known as the nodal point. That's the spot through which all light rays pass, converging to a point on their way to the sensor. The focal length is the distance between the focal plane and the lens's nodal point.

Focal length is crucial because it determines the lens's field of view. The longer the focal length, the narrower the area of the scene captured by the lens. This means that a lens with a short focal length such as the Canon RF 16mm F2.8 STM captures a much broader view than a telephoto lens such as the RF 1200mm F8L IS USM.

This is often expressed as a lens's angle of view, which is the angle between two lines drawn out from the nodal point to the outer edge of the lens's field of view. A shorter focal length, such as 24mm, produces a wide angle of view. A distant subject will appear smaller in the frame than it does when viewed through a lens with a narrow angle of view (that is, a longer focal length).

Flerf wiki is not Wikipedia

In the comment section I encountered someone so stupid that he can't distinguish between the flerf wiki and Wikipedia. I presented him two links, one to this very site on the flerf wiki, not Wikipedia, and one to Wikipedia.

As anyone but that guy can clearly see, only one of the links goes to Wikipedia, yet he insists the flerf wiki is Wikipedia.

There is a very easy way to identify on which site you are currently on. By looking at the logo in the top left corner. The flerf wiki has a different one than Wikipedia.

Moon on flat earth