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On January 11, 2025 MCToon and the Robinson Twins returned to the same dock on the south shore and confirmed the distant shoreline was not visible.
On January 11, 2025 MCToon and the Robinson Twins returned to the same dock on the south shore and confirmed the distant shoreline was not visible.


Some flat earthers have discovered that this video shows some inferior mirages.  Flat earthers claim that inferior mirages HIDE the bottoms of distant objects.  However, when comparing the video from the previous day the same amount of the resort is visible.  Some not inverted, some inverted.  Nothing additional is revealed or hidden with or without the mirage.  This defeats the claim that inferior mirages hide the bottom of distant objects.  In fact it appears that inferior mirages may dUNHIDE a small amount of the distance shore, the opposite what flerfs claim.
Some flat earthers have discovered that this video shows some inferior mirages.  Flat earthers claim that inferior mirages HIDE the bottoms of distant objects.  However, when comparing the video from the previous day the same amount of the resort is visible.  Some not inverted, some inverted.  Nothing additional is revealed or hidden with or without the mirage.  This defeats the claim that inferior mirages hide the bottom of distant objects.  In fact it appears that inferior mirages may UNHIDE a small amount of the distance shore, the opposite what flerfs claim.


There is never an instance where the north shore is visible all the way to the water, including the dock, from the south shore as flat earth requires.
There is never an instance where the north shore is visible all the way to the water, including the dock, from the south shore as flat earth requires.

Latest revision as of 18:48, 5 January 2026

Flerfs often claim that we "see too far" for the globe. But when properly tested we see the right amount. Every time. In fact, any bottom up obstruction falsifies flat earth.

Lake Tahoe

2025-01 Robinson Twins and MCToon

Lake Tahoe is about 20 miles across.

From the south shore you can see the CalNeva resort. From the shore on the south side in calm conditions the bottom of the resort is partially obstructed by the surface of the lake.

On January 10, 2025 Richard and Robert Robinson, The Robinson Twins visited Lake Tahoe visited Lake Tahoe and got video and photographs across the lake. Here is the resort from a short distance:


The resort was partially obstructed. There were not inferior mirages as confirmed by the trees on the far shore. They are not mirrored or duplicated vertically.

Here is the full video:

https://youtu.be/DawcNSELCwY?si=FmEUV92GDQY_9wYQ


On January 11, 2025 MCToon and the Robinson Twins returned to the same dock on the south shore and confirmed the distant shoreline was not visible.

Some flat earthers have discovered that this video shows some inferior mirages. Flat earthers claim that inferior mirages HIDE the bottoms of distant objects. However, when comparing the video from the previous day the same amount of the resort is visible. Some not inverted, some inverted. Nothing additional is revealed or hidden with or without the mirage. This defeats the claim that inferior mirages hide the bottom of distant objects. In fact it appears that inferior mirages may UNHIDE a small amount of the distance shore, the opposite what flerfs claim.

There is never an instance where the north shore is visible all the way to the water, including the dock, from the south shore as flat earth requires.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eERhG19bLvA

2024-09 Peter G

My wife and I took our dogs to the off-leash beach at Baldwin Beach in the South-West corner of Lake Tahoe. From the beach, I could see there was a house across the lake just North of Cave Rock on the Eastern shore (on The Ponderosa!). When I zoomed in with my phone’s camera to 100x, I could see that the house was partially hidden behind the horizon. As an avid viewer of your YouTube channel (and of the other FE debunkers as well), I thought that would make an excellent pic of something being hidden behind the horizon.

To me this is a better depiction of the horizon than ships going out to sea because the house is at a known, fixed position that can be verified. With ships, it’s hard to know the exact position when the photo was taken. Also, because the distance is only about 10 miles, it’s easy to resolve some detail in the house unlike that pic of Chicago across Lake Michigan. My pic clearly shows that the bottom floor and beach in front of the house are hidden.

The photos were taken from Baldwin Beach (38.940428, -120.055552) The house is 1494 Highway 50 #2, Glenbrook, NV 89413 (39.052569, -119.945368)

The house is 9.7 miles away with more than 20 feet of the bottom of the house and beach hidden behind the water at the horizon. The camera is about 10 feet above the water (I'm 5’11” with the phone at eye level <smirk> and standing up the beach a bit so I guessed about 10” observer height) putting the horizon at about 3.8 miles away. (Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, 10x optical zoom, 10x digital zoom for 100x total)

This is a zoom sequence using the different cameras on the S22 Ultra from 1x optical, 3x optical, 10x optical, and 100x digital. Dammit, I should have waited for those dudes to get out of the shot! Anyway, you can see my position on the beach.



Lake Tahoe, Baldwin Beach to 1494 Highway 50 #2, Glenbrook, NV 89413. The house is 9.76 miles away with almost 20 feet of the bottom of the house and beach hidden by the curve of the water. The horizon is about 3.8 miles away.

Pics of the house from the Zillow listing showing three stories and the waterfront yard which are hidden behind the horizon in my pics.
1494 Highway 50 #2, Glenbrook, NV 89413
Zestimate $53.5 million! 14 beds, 14 baths, 23,000 sqft. Yikes!


The house from Google Earth showing the beach and bottom floor which are hidden behind the horizon in my pic from across the lake.