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The four forces acting on an aircraft in straight-and-level, unaccelerated flight are thrust, drag, lift, and weight. They are defined as follows: | The four forces acting on an aircraft in straight-and-level, unaccelerated flight are thrust, drag, lift, and weight. They are defined as follows: | ||
* Thrust — the forward force produced by the powerplant/ propeller or rotor. It opposes or overcomes the force of drag. As a general rule, it acts parallel to the longitudinal axis. However, this is not always the case, as explained later. | * Thrust — the forward force produced by the powerplant/propeller or rotor. It opposes or overcomes the force of drag. As a general rule, it acts parallel to the longitudinal axis. However, this is not always the case, as explained later. | ||
* Drag — a rearward, retarding force caused by disruption of airflow by the wing, rotor, fuselage, and other protruding objects. As a general rule, drag opposes thrust and acts rearward parallel to the relative wind. | * Drag — a rearward, retarding force caused by disruption of airflow by the wing, rotor, fuselage, and other protruding objects. As a general rule, drag opposes thrust and acts rearward parallel to the relative wind. | ||
* Lift—is a force that is produced by the dynamic effect of the air acting on the airfoil, and acts perpendicular to the flight path through the center of lift (CL) and perpendicular to the lateral axis. In level flight, lift opposes the downward force of weight. | * Lift—is a force that is produced by the dynamic effect of the air acting on the airfoil, and acts perpendicular to the flight path through the center of lift (CL) and perpendicular to the lateral axis. In level flight, lift opposes the downward force of weight. | ||
Revision as of 08:30, 21 April 2025
| Real name | Keith Reynolds |
|---|---|
| Alias(es) | Flatzoid, Fkatzoid, Fitzoid, Kifazoid, Failzoid, Creality, Ratzoid |
| Location on the globe | South Africa |
| Main platform | YouTube |
| Papa flerf | Nathan Oakley (prior to a flerf-on-flerf) |
| Flerfzi? | Yes |
| Religiflerf? | Yes |
| Drinks urine? | No |
| Adopted By | not adopted yet |
| Teeth | slightly less than full set |
If you are interested in clips if Flatzoid's derp Jack of all Trades has a collection.
Known Accounts
YouTube Account History
- Flatzoid FE
- Flatzoids Perspective
- Creality
Other Info
- Keith Reynolds, known online as Flatzoid, is a South African flat Earth proponent.
- He has engaged in debates with fellow flat Earther Nathan Oakley, leading to a flerf-on-flerf spat.
- He was associated with the “Flatzoid’s Kids” Rumor, which he has helped start and perpetuate.
- While trying to deface this very web site, Flatzoid leaked his IP address: 41.193.212.184 [1] [2]
- He rebranded his YouTube channel to Creality on 5th April 2025
- He renamed the channel again to "Creality Jesus Saves" on 11th April 2025
- Winner of the 2025 Top left award [3]
Questions for Fkatzoid
- Why do you always ask loaded questions?
- When did you stop beating your wife?
Updated Definition
In 2025 Webster's Dictionary updated the definition of "unemployable" to include a photo of Fkatzoid.

Accusations
Will Duffy
In multiple videos Flatzoid claims that Will Duffy said that deception is good.[4] That's not true. Will said that according to the bible, lying is not inherently evil.[5][6]
Brenda
Flatzoid brought up a video claiming it shows Brenda, even though it's someone else, to defame not just her, but the entire globe community.[7]
Lisbeth
Flatzoid calls Lisbeth Acosta a "village bicycle".[8]
Flatzoid made further accusations about Lisbeth and the TFE crew in general.[9]
Flatzoid claimed that Jeran Campenalla had half naked photos of Lisbeth Acosta broadcast during a livestream: We literally have seen a picture of Lisbeth half naked for Jeran.
The photo seen in Jeran's live stream, was of his wife.[10] Jeran censored the photo now. Flatzoid dishonest as always just asserted that it was Lisbeth.
Other defamatory quotes from Flatzoid:
- "That whole group is a perverted nonsense idiotic people and frankly they need to get a life."
- "We all know why um Lisbeth went with on the group. Have you ever heard of the um of the saying before village bicycle?"
He doubles down on his accusation.[11]
Flatzoid: You know McToon brought out a video guys, earlier and uh we called uh you know Village Bicycle. Um Sprouts of Doom don't come in here saying silly horrible things like I do, I just hear it from the channel, you got it. Anyway you see the difference between uh Lisbeth and my wife, Lisbeth sends nude pictures to uh Jeran, my wife doesn't do that to anybody. So get your facts straight mate. Oh that actually, we literally have, we literally have seen a picture of Lisbeth half naked for Jeran.
Pretending to apologize
Wrong picture
He later apologized about showing another picture than the one he saw on Jeran's stream.[12] No attempt of apologizing about his wrongful accusations.
Misrepresentation
Another pathetic attempt of an apology is his video Flatzoid No More
[13], where once again he doesn't retract his accusations, but instead blames the globe side for misrepresenting him.
Calling the rest of TFE participants perverts
He also tried to backtrack about his accusations about Lisbeth by calling everyone else involved in TFE the perverts.[14] As if changing the target makes his accusations any better.
Flatzoid: Lisbeth can come talk to me anytime, I'll show much respect to her because I don't mean any disrespect to her. I'm just simply pointing out the other perverted idiots.
Misspeaking about it being a nude photo
The next backtracking he does is saying that he misspoke about it being a nude picture and he apologizes about claiming that Lisbeth sent the photo. Instead he is blaming Jeran for simply having a photo, which Flatzoid asserts to be Lisbeth.[15]
Flatzoid: I shouldn't have said nude. I did fix myself afterwards and said nearly nude. Though, well, yeah, so yeah. Again that was in reply to uh McToon coming in and uh you know slandering my wife and bringing my wife into the argument.
Roger Ledwell: the question is why would he get a nearly nude photo of Lisbeth in the first place?
Flatzoid: Yes that one. Why, now again, I, I shouldn't have said Lisbeth sent it to her so that was wrong, cuz he could have got it off her profiles, you know what I mean?
Roger Ledwell: that's all I said
Flatzoid: But that was a misspeak. Sorry about that Lisbeth I didn't mean to say you sent it. It was just, I was caught off guard with McToon coming in and bringing my wife into it so that I didn't mean to say sending but yeah, it's just, I should have said it's weird that you would have pictures like that. You know what I mean?
Note that Fkatzoid was claiming that MCToon was in the video livestream chat. This is a lie because Fkatzoid loves censorship so much that he has MCToon blocked on his channel so it's impossible.
He claims that he is not attacking Lisbeth, by attacking others
Flatzoid also claims that he didn't attack Lisbeth, because he didn't make live streams or videos about her, like he did with MCToon, Dave McKeegan and Will Duffy.[16] Admitting to attack someone else to avoid admitting to attack Lisbeth, doesn't help his case.
Flatzoid: I mean if I really wanted to attack her, would I have not made a video by now or a live stream about it? Like I've been doing with McToon and McKeegan and Duffy. Would make live streams about it correct? Or videos?
Jeran
Revenge porn
Flatzoid received some revenge porn of Jeran Campanella. On April 1, 2025 Flatzoid boasted about this on his livestream and gave a highly distorted description that suggested there was a child victim involved:[17]

Flatzoid: Every time the guy’s name comes up I just think of those videos sent to me.
SSUM: I haven’t seen ’em.
Flatzoid: You don’t want to. But let me put into context one of the videos. It’s a child’s torso, and he’s … [Flatzoid strikes his desk repeatedly].
SSUM: Wow.
Roger Ledwell: Nice.
Two days later, when Peter Markley was challenging him on this, Flatzoid admitted the object in the video was actually some type of “doll” and that no crime was depicted.
Claiming Jeran is a pervert
In his fake apology to Lisbeth while Flatzoid was watching Dave McKeegan's stream, he shifted the blame to Jeran. [18]
Flatzoid: Um, oh, and I want to point out yes, uh everybody in the flat earth community knows just what Jeran sends to females and expects them to send to him.
PJ: He's disgusting
Flatzoid: So I'm not going to say anything further than that. Again not slander, not saying anything. If you don't believe me you can ask any other flatearther about the stuff. I don't want to say anything. I just say "Pray for the guy he's very perverted." That's it.
MCToon
Flatzoid made a baseless claim that Toon has children tied to a pole in his basement.[19]
Flatzoid: I've got a statement from McToon who just came in, which I just blocked, um maybe you want to let go of the children tied to the pole in your basement.
He also claims that MCToon is perverted, because he is friends with Jeran. [20]
Flatzoid: McToon you can also come in and talk because I'm more than happy to tell you how perverted you are because everybody knows how perverted you are. You buddy buddy with Jeran.
Flatearthers who left
According to Flatzoid many of the people who reached out to people like Dave McKeegan, to say why they left flat earth, are just fabricated accounts.[21]
Flatzoid: I want to point out so many of these what he's claiming are fabricated fake accounts.
Statements
Union Glacier Location
Flatzoid: I do think that they're being duped to think they're at Antarctica. I don't think Union Glacier is really at Antarctica. I think that's at a different location and it's placed as Antarctica.[22]
Where is the South Pole?
Will Duffy: Where is the South Pole?
Flatzoid: It's a ceremonial Place.
Will Duffy: And where is it?
Flatzoid: At the ceremonial South Pole place, where they put the pole up. [23]
Claiming that people defending themselves when accused of lying means that they are guilty
Flatzoid: See, that's the one thing that I've realized, especially with this um topic. If you call out deception, which I do a lot, the fact that they come and they try and, uh how can I say, defend it towards me shows that they're guilty because one thing I've realized through years is, if someone is not feeling guilty about things they just ah leave it and they go on, or they make one video just you know um saying, okay I respond to it and they go on with their lives. These guys make it them life's mission to try and discredit me to try and defend saying they're not deceptive. [24]
That's rich coming from someone who made it his mission to discredit Will Duffy and the other TFE participants. He has over 20 videos lying about TFE or the TFE participants.
Flatzoid and his Jerkell discussing the South Pole
David Sanch: So, you know they have the South Pole station and they claim that that place was found because someone came from like the north of Antarctica and went South following the Stars until they got to that place, and then someone from the south of Antarctica went like, also straight to that place, but like I don't know about the exact Direction, but they're saying that they came from two opposite sides of Antarctica. They followed the sky and they met in one geographic location where all the stars were circling around one point in the sky.
Flatzoid: Now what happened is the one person went and he placed a tent there then later on another person came and found the tent there and they declared it as the geographic South Pole.
For a proper explanation about how the South Pole was discovered Will Duffy made a great video explaining it.[26]
Lies
Tiny Captain has a nice compilation of Flatzoid's lies.[27]
General Lies
11 Frames
Flatzoid's most famous lie is him removing 11 frames in a video of a capsule splashdown. Reds Rhetoric made a video about that. [28] Critical Think has a shorter summary.[29]
Becoming Fkatzoid
During MCToon's livestream Flattys are Eating Their Own
[30], Toon checked if Flatzoid had his email address on his channel. Flatzoid didn't and to hide it he quickly added his email address[31], and was caught mistyping it as fkatzoid@gmail.com.[32] He tried to cover it up by claiming that Toon changed the HTML, even though Toon couldn't have done that as he shared his screen at the time, showing everyone how he refreshed the page. [31] Furthermore Toon would have had to add all the stuff that were removed after Flatzoid updated his about page.
Bible says Earth is flat
Flatzoid had a bet with Shawn Hawkins about the bible saying that Earth is flat. [33]
For that Flatzoid brought up 2 Samuel 11:11 of two very obscure bibles.
- The Matthew's Bible:
And Vrias sayd vnto Dauid: the arck and Israel & Iuda dwell in pauilions: & my Lord Ioab and the seruauntes of my Lorde lye in tentes vpon the flat earthe: and shulde I then go into myne house, to eate and to dryncke & to lye wyth my wyfe? By thy lyfe and as sure as thy soule lyueth, I wyll not do that thyng.
[34] - The Great Bible:
Urias answered Dauid. The arcke & Israel and Iuda dwell in pauylyons: and my Lorde Ioab and the seruauntes of my Lorde lye vpon the flatt erthe: and shall I then go into myne house, to eate, and to dryncke, and lye wyth my wyfe? By thy lyfe and by the lyfe of thy soule, I wyll not do thys thynge.
[35]
When looking through other translation it becomes obvious that that passage talks about an open area.[36]
NASA changing curriculum
One of Flatzoid's Jerkell claims that the study A CROSS-CULTURAL INVESTIGATION OF CHILDREN'S CONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE EARTH, THE SUN AND THE MOON: GREEK AND AMERICAN DATA
[37] was given a grant by NASA.
The claim is that the National Science Foundation (NSF) is an arm of NASA[38], which Flatzoid simply accepted without checking. By simply looking up that foundation what do we find?
The U.S. National Science Foundation is an independent federal agency that supports science and engineering in all 50 states and U.S. territories.
NSF was established in 1950 by Congress to:
- Promote the progress of science.
- Advance the national health, prosperity and welfare.
- Secure the national defense.
We fulfill our mission chiefly by making grants. Our investments account for about 25% of federal support to America's colleges and universities for basic research: research driven by curiosity and discovery. We also support solutions-oriented research with the potential to produce advancements for the American people.
Flatzoid and his Jerkell blame NASA for something they have nothing to do with.
Lying about the globe
Sunrise in Uvongo
Flatzoid went to Uvongo on a holiday and while there he measured the direction of the sunrise. His phone showed 122°. When comparing it with Google Earth, he claims that the right line is 122°. [40]
Google Earth actually shows that the right line is 118°.
Celestial Navigation
FTFE asked Flatzoid to show one citation that states that a circle of equal altitude is flat and level. The citation provided by Flatzoid appears at first glance to support that statement.[41]
FTFE showed that the same document shows that the previous diagram is just a simplification. Directly after it shows the circle on the curved surface of the globe.[42] [43]
TFE and Antarctica
Sun going behind Mount Rossman
Flatzoid used a clip of Dave McKeegan saying that the sun was going behind Mount Rossman.[44] In this context it simply means that the sun is further away than the mountain in the same direction as the mountain. It doesn't mean that the Mountain blocked the sun. Jeran shortly after in the same video was in Union Glacier Camp, where the sun can actually be blocked by the mountain at the end of the camp closest to the mountain.
Toon and Duffy aging
In the same video[44] as in the previous lie, Flatzoid also claims that Toon and Will aged a lot, by comparing a video taken by a phone by one of the organisers of the Antarctica marathon, with the videos taken in Will's and Toon's home respectively. Something flerfs haven't done is to compare the videos Toon and Duffy took earlier in the year with the footage after TFE when the conditions are the same. It's like they know it won't work if they do that.
Union Glacier Camp not visible
Another lie is the claim that Toon and Duffy filmed the site off season, when Union Glacier Camp wasn't set up, because the camp isn't visible in the footage.[44] In reality the camp is simply lower than halfway-point, where TFE was, as shown by the drone footage.[45]
Marathon runner breath
In a discussion with Witsit, Flatzoid claimed at the beginning that the breath of the marathon runners was always visible.
Flatzoid: We showed a video of the marathon runners there a day earlier and their breath was showing the whole time and they were also at Union Glacier. So why was it possible that their breath is always showing and your guys wasn't?[46]
When Witsit calls him out on that, he claims that he never said that we can always see the breath of the marathon runners.
Flatzoid: Now you are lying because you didn't watch any of my content so when did I say we always see their breath? [...] I said most of the time.[47]
Flatzoid claims TFE was rendered in Unreal Engine
During a debate between Flatzoid and Dave McKeegan, Flatzoid claimed that he thinks that TFE could have been done in Unreal Engine.
Flatzoid: My uh idea is how they could have faked it was Duffy or someone could have gone earlier and and got high def HDRs uh surround environments of Antarctica, because when you look at the in the footage we don't see Union Glacier anywhere around there and they're only about 1.5 km away you should see Union Glacier camp we don't see Union Glacier camp at Mount Rossman. So that shows that they were either probably there when it was off-season when there were no tourists available, they were able to get their uh environment done, HDR environment done, and they could make recreate it in Unreal Engine 5 if they wanted to and therefore when they did all really go down in December they were able to just fake the sky and have the rest as a real environment.[48]
Dave McKeegan made a great video about how it's not possible to use Unreal Engine to fake TFE.[49]
As for the camp not being visible, that was already explained before.
Camera glitching means that the video is fake?
In the discussion with Dave McKeegan, Dave showed the footage on his insta 360. Unfortunately the camera glitched and showed a green frame. Flatzoid, dishonest as usual, took that as evidence of fakery. [50]
Plane flight ceiling
According to Flatzoid the flight ceiling of planes flying over Antarctica is 13,000 feet.[51]
Flatzoid: Why they have a ceiling of 13,000 ft when flying in Antarctica?
Of course that's a lie. The planes fly at over 35,000 ft. Apparently Flatzoid already looked that up himself.
Showcasing His Stupidity
Math
Flatzoid doesn't understand variables in geometry
Flatzoid thinks he understands geometry better than anyone else. But in this post he demonstrates that he has no idea. The correct answer is arctan(opposite/adjacent). He wrote 45° which would be wrong even for this example as the triangle is very clearly not a 45-45-90 triangle.
Angle is a hypotenuse?
Flatzoid thinks that an angle is a hypotenuse. The clip is in one of FTFE's videos, as I couldn't find the original video.
Flatzoid: the 45 degree that you at the sun [...] would that be a hypotenuse of a right angle triangle?
Here is an example of what the hypotenuse actually is. The hypotenuse is side a, the side opposite of the right angle at point A. As you can see a hypotenuse does not represent a 45° angle, as none of the angles in the following example even is 45°. Even with 45° angles, a hypotenuse doesn't represent an angle.
Physics
Sunglare needs an atmosphere?
Flatzoid claimed that glare needs an atmosphere while he was looking at photos taken by Blue Ghost from the moon. [53]
Flatzoid doesn't understand perspective and reference frames
Dave McKeegan explained in a video how Flatzoid doesn't understand perspective parallax etc, by using a video made by UThink. Flatzoid reviews that video and demonstrates once again he doesn't understand it. [54]
Flatzoid thinks that if Earth moves, the roundabout in the animation, that the camera must move relative to the ground to keep the table in view.
Magnetism vs Gravity
In a discussion between Flatzoid and FTFE, they were comparing gravity and magnetism. Flatzoid is fine with changing the magnetic field by adding charge, but at the same time he doesn't accept changing mass to change the force of gravity.[55]
Globe
Flatzoid confuses East and West
When Critical Think had a discussion with a flerf friend, his friend stated that the sun is West of his position in Brisbane Australia, while it was South of Union Glacier.[56] Flatzoid tried debunking it by confusing East and West. He took down his videos after Rachie 00000 called him out.[57][58]
Flatzoid also doesn't understand South
In another live stream, Flatzoid demonstrates that he also doesn't understand how to travel South on the globe.[59]
Flatzoid and the South pole
Flatzoid thinks that the existence of the South pole in reality is a straw-man, because the flat earth doesn't have a South pole. He also doesn't understand that 90° is not a single location on a flat earth. It's only a single location on the globe. [60] Will Duffy asked him to point out where 90° South is on a map, which of course Flatzoid couldn't answer and just kept deflecting.[23]
In case Flatzoid reads the wiki. The sign of Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station shows Antarctica as the continent it is on the globe.
In another stream, Flatzoid's panel talks about there being seven South Poles and Flatzoid just accepts that as truth.[61]
Sun is North of Union Glacier?
While discussing The Final Experiment's observation of the Sun in Antarctica, Flatzoid referred to the Time and Date's map on their website for December 14, 2024, and said that since the Sun's icon was placed north of Antarctica on the map at local midnight, the participants of TFE were lying because they saw the Sun towards their South, as it should have been North of them.[62]
The first mistake he made is that he use midnight UTC, which is not local midnight. At that time the sun is West of the TFE camp.
Local Midnight is around 6:00 UTC.
The second mistake is that he treated a cylindrical map projection as representative of globe geometry (just like flerfs do when claiming flight paths don’t work on a globe). This is so elementary as to be plainly dishonest.
On the globe the actual position of the sun is indeed South of Union Glacier at local midnight in the direction of Mount Rossman. The worst part is that Flatzoid actually knows that. He showed that in a previous stream where he confused East and West using Google Earth.
In case Flatzoid complains about the compass in the top right corner showing North towards the left, that's because my position above the globe is slightly left of the South Pole. It's in the direction of South from the position of the TFE camp.
South Celestial Pole
Flatzoid doesn't understand how you can use the stars around a celestial pole to navigate.
Flatzoid: If you've ever used navigation with the Stars and stuff, which I have in the bush, yet you can't tell you're going exactly straight by following a star because the stars are following a circular path. You're following that that um that star you are following its circular path. So you think you're going straight but you're actually taking a circular path.
David Sanch: All right but we have latitude though. Like we talked about the 69 nautical miles you're able to go in a straight line from the North Pole of Polaris straight down one degree, one degree, one degree, all the way until you get to the equator correct, and stay in a straight line.
Flatzoid: The thing is Stars always travel east to west. Okay, you would agree that's taking a circular route.
David Sanch: Yeah, yeah, but you're you're not focusing on those Stars you're just focusing on Polaris.
Flatzoid: No, no, no, so if you no not Polaris I'm saying Stars so if you're focusing on following, let's say the Southern Cross which is taking, yeah a circular path east to west of the sky you are following that circular path you're not going straight.
David Sanch:No you want to just find what is rotating around and you go straight at that.
Flatzoid: So you're not taking a straight path so in other words it's taking...
Michael Khan: There's no star to look we we seen in itself that that thing that they say it's rotating around. There isn't a star there.
David Sanch: But you could, you could place your own imaginary Star right in the center and just travel towards that.
Michael Khan: You can because you you only see them rotating Stars when someone does a star Trail time lapse on a boat in South. You're not seeing Stars doing a circular motion.
Flatzoid: Yeah, you don't don't long exposure you don't do long exposure to look at stars.
Michael Khan: Only Stars the probably use that Southern Cross for navigation itself like Flatzoid says they're constantly moving.
David Sanch: So you're you're saying there 100% is no South Celestial pole?
Flatzoid: No not as what the globe claims.
Michael Khan: No cuz I know flat there.
Flatzoid: Yeah ceremonial there's no Geographic South Pole. Now David why you would like to disprove something which you can't.
Here is a photo of the celestial South Pole taken at the South African Large Telescope.[64]
Flatzoid even explains how he doesn't understand the difference between the South Celestial Pole and the Pole Star.
Flatzoid: The so-called south celestial pole you're talking about doesn't exist, because it's a globe claim. For a south celestial pole to exist means you got a globe with a north and a south axial tilt. There is no axial tilt of a globe, so therefore there is no south celestial pole. Now there is an observed observation seeming for the stars in the south to go around a point, which doesn't have a south celestial pole, because there is no south celestial pole uh star. To say they've assigned it to the closest uh star would be Sigma Octantis, which is hardly visible anyway. Um so this is again him just ignoring all these things told to him before, and yes you are able to have those observations because if it's a reflection from the north to the south on the dome. You will see the inverse which is the same as seeing it in the opposite direction as you call it, which is practically just you not understanding that direction is always east to west, but your perception on your location gives you appears to be right to left or left to right. It's always the same operation.
A celestial pole is the point around which the stars appear to move around. There are two, directly above the geographic North and South Pole. A polestar is a star that's closest to the celestial pole.
Lunar eclipses
Flatzoid claims that predicting lunar eclipses isn't globe based just because people were able to predict them centuries ago.[66] As usual no flerf will ever present a working mechanism for how a lunar eclipse is possible on a flat earth. He is also completely ignoring that the people at the time at best predicted the date, but not the exact time and location. It's more drastic for solar eclipses, as unlike the lunar eclipses, solar eclipses are only visible for a small part of Earth.
Flatzoid doesn't realize that the exposure was different when the moon eclipsed. So the moon appeared brighter.[67]
It's funny that for Flatzoid a slight adjustment is deception when Danny Faulkner does it, but when Dave Weiss rotated the camera by a lot more it's just accepted as valid. Bob the Science Guy shows that in his video.[68]
Here is an illustration showing how the shadow on the moon should look like according to the globe. Of course no flerf will ever show how it's supposed to look like on a flat earth, or how a lunar eclipse is even possible.
Stars
He is also claiming that the stars didn't change over the millenia.[69] That of course is another lie. The stars did change over the years. Their positions are recorded in nautical almanacs[70], which Flatzoid of course never opened.
Polaris for example moved.
- 1850: 88° 30′ 35.28″ with an annual movement of 19.27″
- 1900: 88° 46′ 26.72′ with an annual movement of 18.762″
- 2017: 89° 20.3′ annual movement is listed elsewhere in the almanac.
The question which he will never attempt to answer is, how does he know what position the stars were a thousand or so years ago? At best we get an answer like Look at the stars
.
Moon orientation
Flatzoid accidentally debunked the flat earth. He showed that the moon in South Africa is rotated, like the globe predicts, but not any flat earth.[72]
Aviation
Flatzoid doesn't understand down
Flatzoid reviews the discussion between Will Duffy and Wolfie6020. Wolfie explains the direction of down and what horizontal is on the globe.[73] Flatzoid demonstrates once again that he doesn't understand up and down or aviation even when it has literally been explained to him a few seconds before. He thinks that all horizontals are parallel and that the pitch data to change when flying around the globe.
Gyroscopes and Artificial Horizon
At the same time in the video as for the previous claim, Flatzoid also claims that gyroscopes are set at the start airport and then just keep their orientation. At the end of the discussion between Will and Wolfie, Wolfie shows that the gyroscopes adjust according to gravity.[74] Flatzoid didn't even get to that part of the video.
WheresWally made a video explaining Flatzoid's wrong understanding of the pitch data.[75]
Dave McKeegan also made a video explaining pitch data.[76]
Basics of flying
Flatzoid thinks that the mass of an aircraft doesn't matter once the plane is in the air. He really doesn't have a clue about aviation.
Flatzoid: If you know how a plane works Duffy. It's not going to worry about the weight of the plane because it's already in the air. it's just basically a dance of thrust, thrust and friction to keep it up in the air. That's all it is. The only time you worry about weight on a plane is takeoff. That's where you got to worry about it because you wouldn't be able to take off if it's too heavy. So Duffy doesn't have a clue how planes work, does he?
???: And a plane would has to create a lift effect to start with.
Flatzoid: Yeah, and the reason they don't take that into account is because it's got nothing to do with what they are training for they're training to fly yeah they pl they're training to fly over the earth which is a non-moving flat plane.
Flatzoid should actually learn what he is talking about. He really is top left personified. No clue about anything while thinking he knows everything.
The FAA has a very thorough explanation about the aerodynamics of flight.[78]
The four forces acting on an aircraft in straight-and-level, unaccelerated flight are thrust, drag, lift, and weight. They are defined as follows:
- Thrust — the forward force produced by the powerplant/propeller or rotor. It opposes or overcomes the force of drag. As a general rule, it acts parallel to the longitudinal axis. However, this is not always the case, as explained later.
- Drag — a rearward, retarding force caused by disruption of airflow by the wing, rotor, fuselage, and other protruding objects. As a general rule, drag opposes thrust and acts rearward parallel to the relative wind.
- Lift—is a force that is produced by the dynamic effect of the air acting on the airfoil, and acts perpendicular to the flight path through the center of lift (CL) and perpendicular to the lateral axis. In level flight, lift opposes the downward force of weight.
- Weight—the combined load of the aircraft itself, the crew, the fuel, and the cargo or baggage. Weight is a force that pulls the aircraft downward because of the force of gravity. It opposes lift and acts vertically downward through the aircraft’s center of gravity (CG).
Cameras
Lens flares
Flatzoid doesn't understand that the lens flares will be the same after 24 hours when using the same camera pointed at the sun at the same angle, which is the case when the camera is mounted on a rotating tripod.[79]
He also doesn't understand that different lenses result in different flares.[80]
Flatzoid: The point I'm trying to make now is, look at the sun specifically. How it looks okay and we can compare it to actual footage from Antarctica, that's practically how it looks, but the ones we saw from their 24hour time lapses and stuff doesn't look like that.
For comparison, here is a frame from the TFE trailer.[81]
And one from Dave McKeegan's 24h timelapse.[82]
Language
Community member
Flatzoid thinks he needs to apply to be a member of the flat earth community.[83]
Flatzoid: Is anybody a member of the flat earth?
Janusz: Nope
Roger Ledwell: Where do we join, where do we join, where do we sign up?
PJ: I didn't say anything not a thing, I didn't pledge anything, didn't say anything. Nothing, I don't pledge allegiance to the flat earth.
Insinuate
In his live stream Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
[84], a person called Frank told Flatzoid, how he was insinuating that Lisbeth is the village bicycle. Flatzoid's counter to that is that he didn't directly say the words: Lisbeth is the village bicycle
. That demonstrates that he does not understand the word insinuate.
Airplane
According to Flatzoid airplanes are called that, because they are flying over a flat earth.[85]
Flatzoid: You fly over a plane, yeah. It's called a aeroplane for a reason.
The word aeroplane actually comes from the shape of the wings.[86]
aeroplane(n.)
1866, originally in reference to surfaces such as shell casings of beetle wings, from French aéroplane (1855), from Greek-derived aero- "air" + stem of French planer "to soar," from Latin planus "level, flat" (from PIE root *pele- (2) "flat; to spread").
The word was later extended to the wing of a heavier-than-air flying machine. The use of the word in reference to the machine itself is first attested 1873 and probably is an independent coinage in English. Also see airplane. Ancient Greek had a word aeroplanos, but it meant "wandering in the air," from planos "wandering" (see planet).
Earth shape debate
Flatzoid thinks that a debate about Earth's shape means that it's a debate about biblical cosmology.[87][88]
Surveying
Curvature corrections
According to Flatzoid, that surveyors account for curvature just because they believe it exists. Essentially he is saying that everyone who measures Earth is getting it wrong on purpose. Of course no measurements of Earth being flat exist.[89]
Geodetic Surveying is Planar Surveying stitched together
Flatzoid also claims that Geodetic Surveying is just linking together the measurements from Planar Surveying.[90]
Flatzoid: You don't observe uh geodetic surveying because it's planar surveying done in sections that they link up. Just like what it said. So they're taking all the sections of um of um local measurements, okay, up to let's say 10 miles or whatever and they're just linking them together. That's all they're doing and then they take all those links and just lie them across a sphere. That's what they do but was it measured over a sphere? No it was measured flat and then calculated that all those linkages are curving over a sphere, where they get most, of that is like the Topography is not exactly straight and that's what I brought the Arc of the parallel up, because it's exactly that. It's just linkages of, let's just say you got a link like this. Okay. Then we're going to put another measurement which is another link you see it pulls out the distance further. Now these are two separate measurements, which are all flat measurements. Now they're taking that measurement. I wish I had a ball with me and they wrap it around a ball and say it's curved, but in the meantime they measured flat measurements. They link them together. That's all they do.
If that was the case, surveyors would simply measure over larger distances without applying any curvature corrections. That would result in different measurements simply by measuring from the opposite side, as Earth is a sphere.
For example: Assuming we have two points A and B at the same elevation. If you measure point B from point A, point B will be lower than point A. It's the other way around when point A is measured from point B. Of course Flatzoid completely ignores any problems.
Maps
Gisgeography has a nice overview of map projections.[91][92] The also have a good explanation about coordinates [93], and compare the different distortions.[94]
Distances
Flatzoid doesn't understand that every map has different distortions and thinks that all maps have the correct distances.
Flatzoid: My model and my map is every map in existence because all the distances comport with measurements of reality. There we go. So it doesn't matter which map you present, the distance is shown to comport with what's measured in reality. It doesn't make it a sphere or a triangle. What it does do is it shows it's measured flat.
If Earth was flat, only one world map can have all the correct distances. Since Earth isn't flat, the only model where all the distances are correct is the globe.
Grid
Flatzoid thinks that the grid on maps all have the same distance. That's of course not true. The distance between latitudes is the same, but not between the longitudes. The distance between the longitudes increases closer to the equator and decreases closer to the poles.
Flatzoid: You see all these blocks. The coordinate systems. Okay. You see how they take those blocks and they lay them to each other on a map because it's a grid system. Those grid systems look how different they look. Okay. All those grids, but they all have the same distances allocated. Yeah. Why? Because the measurement is true, the distance is true, the layout is not. No. You just at the end of the day, you're just following a grid system that was measured over a flat horizontal plane.
Masons
Colors
Orange
According to Flatzoid wearing an orange shirt is a sign of being a mason.[97]
Flatzoid: But that's the thing he gets called out for his Masonic shirts he keeps wearing and he keeps wearing specifically his orange shirts. What does that tell you guys?
Blue and Red
Wearing blue or red is also masonic. [98]
Flatzoid: On Jeran's stream, which he literally had the same time as him, he was on Jeran's stream, he was wearing a red hoodie and then straight after went to start his streaming wearing a blue hoodie and that is again guys, sorry to say, linked to Freemasonry.
Putting your right hand on the bible
According to Flatzoid putting your right hand on the bible is a masonic ritual.[99]
Flatzoid: But you see the problem with what Witsit did now? Put, placing the right hand on the Bible is a um Authority Passage through Mas, Masonic, uh masonry. It's literally a masonic um ritual that you do to to show you have authority.
Nipples on ice
Taking a group photo with some people being topless is also masonic, according to Flatzoid or his viewers.[100]
Flatzoid: The problem with that is it's based on a Mason ritual. Especially the the check, cuz it's shirt off, shirt on, shirt off, shirt on, and that's why everybody is saying, yeah it's based on on Freemason symbolism.
References
- ↑ Fkatzoid's slanderous edit
- ↑ 34:27 Flatzoid vandalizing the website,
Mctoons Flerf Wiki Obsession
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ Top Left 2025 Awards
- ↑ 27:19 Flatzoid claiming that Will said deception is good,
Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Is It Always Wrong To Tell A Lie?
by Agape Kingdom Fellowship - ↑
Is It A Sin To Lie If It Means You’re Saving A Life?
by Agape Kingdom Fellowship - ↑ 1:14:57
Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Fkatzoid, David Cain, PJ are Evil
by Conspiracy Toonz - ↑
Fkatzoid's Sick Fantasies about Lisbeth
by MCToon Live - ↑ 1:11:18 Jeran's wife on livestream censored
jeranism Friday UNPLUGGED Ep. 4 | Responding to Those Who Say the Antarctica Trip Was Fake | 1/31/25
by jeranism - ↑ 8:30 Flatzoid doubling down on his accusation about Lisbeth,
So Cultered talks about flat earth
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 2:39:57 Flatzoid presenting a photo that wasn't one Jeran's live stream,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ Flatzoid blaming the globe side for misrepresenting him,
Flatzoid No More
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 2:51:05 Flatzoid accusing the other TFE participants,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 3:13:13 Flatzoid accusing Jeran for having a lightly dressed photo of Lisbeth,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 3:38:32 Flatzoid admitting he attacked MCToon, Will Duffy and Dave McKegan,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:02:54
Zach Star CLAPS BACK at Flat Earth Comments
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 3:14:24 Flatzoid calling Jeran a pervert,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:35:39 Flatzoid accusing Toon,
So Cultured talks about flat earth
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 2:45:53 Flatzoid claiming that MCToon is perverted,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 3:05:19 Flatzoid claiming that flatearthers who quit are fake,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 2:58:16,
TFE Is not faking anything?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 23.0 23.1 5:15,
Deceptive Duffy show up
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 45:56,
Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:34:33 Flatzoid and his Jerkell talking about the South Pole,
Let's have a talk!
(March 16) by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
THE FINAL EXPERIMENTS - The South Pole
by The Final Experiment - ↑
The Truth Behind Fkatzoids (@FlatzoidsPerspective ) Lies
by Tiny Captain - ↑
Flat Earth Dishonesty - Spurs & Flatzoid FE
by Reds Rhetoric - ↑
The 11 (or 13) frames of shame
by Critical Think - ↑
Flattys are Eating Their Own
by MCToon Live - ↑ 31.0 31.1 4:54:12 Adding the email,
Flattys are Eating Their Own
by MCToon Live - ↑ 7:27:01 Birth of Fkatzoid,
Flattys are Eating Their Own
by MCToon Live - ↑
Shawn Owes me $100
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Matthew's Bible 2 Samuel 11
by textusreceptusbibles - ↑
Great Bible 2 Samuel 11
by textusreceptusbibles - ↑
2 Samuel 11 in multiple translations
by Biblegateway - ↑
A CROSS-CULTURAL INVESTIGATION OF CHILDREN'S CONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE EARTH, THE SUN AND THE MOON: GREEK AND AMERICAN DATA
- ↑ 29:09 NSF is an arm of NASA,
You can’t handle the truth!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
National Science Foundation
- ↑ 6:36,
Sunrise Observation kills the globe
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
So FTFE will you keep your word?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 7:24,
Flatzoid/Failzoid - A Failure
by Craig McNeill - FTFE - ↑
Altitude-Intercept Method
- ↑ 44.0 44.1 44.2
Unreal TFE
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
The Final Experiment Mile High Drone with Ascent and Descent by Will Duffy Telemetry by WheresWally
by WheresWally - ↑ 4:24 Flatzoid saying they always show their breath,
Called out by Witsit!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 15:42 Witsit calling Flatzoid out,
Called out by Witsit!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 7:18 Flatzoid claiming TFE was faked in Unreal Engine,
A Flat Earth "Debate" - Dave McKeegan VS Flatzoid - Was The Sun In Antarctica Fake?
by Craig McNeill - FTFE - ↑
We faked the 24hr sun with Unreal Engine .... Apparently
by Dave McKeegan - ↑ 17:46 Camera glitch,
Blerfers Always Rinse and Repeat?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 36:51 Flight ceiling,
Can You REALLY Trust The Biblical Flat Earth Model?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
A Flat Earth "Debate" - FTFE VS Matthew Hakim - Was The Final Experiment A Hoax?
by Craig McNeill - FTFE - ↑ 45:28 Looking at Blue Ghost photos,
Mctoons Flerf Wiki Obsession
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:13:19
TFE Fakery and some U2 Spy Plane action
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 15:37 Magnetism vs Gravity,
A Flat Earth "Debate" - FTFE VS Flatzoid - Gravity & The 2nd Law Of Thermodynamics
by Craig McNeill - FTFE - ↑ 1:06
Conversations with a flattie about the Sun.
by Critical Think - ↑
Flatzoid Can't East And West
by Rachie 00000 - ↑
Flat Earther Fails At Navigation Without Leaving The House
by Rachie 00000 - ↑ 2:30:42
Tomorrow's World Viewpoint thought nobody would notice the lie?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 51:46
The Pole is Duffy's new strawman
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 4:37 The seven poles,
Blerfers Always Rinse and Repeat?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:44:56
It's a Psyop 5k special
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:42:15 Flatzoid and David talking about the celestial South Pole
Let's have a talk
(March 16) by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
South Africa Large Telescope gallery
- ↑ Flatzoid confusing the South Celestial pole with the pole star
A very confused man explains something he doesn’t understand. @CrealityPodcast
by Eduardo Igirisu 6 - ↑ 14:58 Flatzoid claiming that lunar eclipses are not based on the globe,
Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:27:44 Flatzoid not noticing the different exposure setting,
Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Does the Eclipse Shadow Disprove the Globe???
by Bob the Science Guy - ↑ 15:44 Flatzoid claiming that the stars don't change,
Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Nautical Almanacs
- ↑
Polaris motion
by MCToon - ↑ 1:25:53 Flatzoid showing the moons orientation depends on your location,
Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:30:33 Flatzoid misunderstanding down and horizontal on the globe,
Wolfie attempts to help Duffy cope
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 46:17 Wolfie explaining artificial horizon,
Aviation Proves the Globe! A Chat with Wolfie6020 (a REAL pilot!)
by The Final Experiment - ↑ WheresWally explaining pitch data,
fKatZoid's Jerkle's 11 Fails Interstanding Pitch Data as Will and Wolfie Destroy FE Claims
by WheresWally - ↑
Flat Earthers prove Flat Earth ... by not understanding airplanes
by Dave McKeegan - ↑ Flatzoid not understanding flight,
Griffin TAKES DOWN Duffy in Heated Showdown
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Aerodynamics of Flight/q> by FAA
- ↑ Flatzoid not understanding lens flares,
WIll Duffy Lied about the 24 Hour sun video again!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 38:44 Flatzoid not understanding lens flares again,
Can You REALLY Trust The Biblical Flat Earth Model?
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
The Final Experiment Documentary - Official Trailer
by The Final Experiment - ↑
Timelapse of the 24 hour Antarctic sun
by Dave McKeegan - ↑ 3:07:39 Flatzoid not understanding community,
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 4:21:00
Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 5:58 Flatzoid not understanding the word airplane
Bob The Science Guy's Pitch Data Excuse
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ Etymology of aeroplane by etymonline
- ↑ 38:22 Flatzoid not understanding the topic of the debate,
The Shape of the Earth Showdown Debate review // Will Duffy vs KIC / Sean Griffin
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ Flatzoid not understanding the topic of the debate,
severe topic creep @CrealityPodcast #crealitism #staunchlyStupid #gottaDerp2Flerf
by Jack of all Trades - ↑ 12:49 Flatzoid not understanding surveying,
Surveying Secrets EXPOSED What They Don't Want You to Know
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 23:15 Flatzoid claiming geodetic surveying is a series of planar surveying,
Surveying Secrets EXPOSED What They Don't Want You to Know
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑
Map Projection Types
by Gisgeography - ↑
Map Projections
by Gisgeography - ↑
Latitude Longitude Coordinates
by Gisgeography - ↑
Map Distortions
by Gisgeography - ↑ 1:03:52 Flatzoid not understanding map distortions,
Surveying Secrets EXPOSED What They Don't Want You to Know
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 1:05:02 Flatzoid not understanding the grid,
Surveying Secrets EXPOSED What They Don't Want You to Know
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 10:14 Danny Faulkner wearing an orange shirt,
Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 11:18 Witsit wearing a blue shirt,
To Question means you are not a truther!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 21:54 Witsit putting his right hand on the bible,
To Question means you are not a truther!
by Creality Jesus Saves - ↑ 30:31 Dave McKeegan explaining the topless group photo,
A Flat Earth "Debate" - Dave McKeegan VS Flatzoid - Was The Sun In Antarctica Fake?
by Craig McNeill - FTFE

