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The 15 Degrees Per Hour Incident

In the 2018 Behind the Curve Netflix documentary Bob Knodel admitted that a group of flat earthers had shown that a fiber optic gyroscope would rotate at "15 degrees per hour". This was a startling revelation in particular because Knodel had earlier in the documentary mentioned how he was trying to keep this information quite.

Numpty Clips - Bob Knodel Part 2

Paste Bin Skype Leak

How the Flat Earth mafia reacted to the data from the gyroscope is revealed from a skype chat that was leaked - excerpts below.

"The FOG I have demonstrated can measure earth rotation rate. I've spun it on a 24 hour rotor and it can measure 15° per hour with ease. - Rick Zimmerman [17/08/2017 03:06:47]"

I guess, like I said before, were only looking to effect the readings from the FOG in a 'passive' manner, rather than a 'brute force' method Richard Blades [10/09/2017 23:18:02]

[12/09/2017 20:24:37] Richard Blades: Mems and Mechanical gyros operate differently, they DONT use light...and in there I think is a clue

[12/09/2017 20:56:38] Bob Knodel: Good point Rick. I guarantee you though if we went public with our current findings, the claims that we debunked our own model would be rampant because we clearly detected rotation.

[13/09/2017 00:16:58] Rick Zimmerman: There would be zero yaw on a globe at the equator. The “earth rate” yaw formula for the globe: 15 times (sine of latitude)= yaw "earth rate"

15 times (sine of 40.8687) = 9.81° per hour.  (Ashland, Ohio)

...my one hour test was +7.394° (counter-clockwise rotation) With the gyro up-side down the unit measured -10.469° (clockwise) in one hour. So...we are measuring something close to expected globe rotation. 15 degrees (yaw) per hour is only at the globe’s poles.

[10/09/2017 23:16:49] GLOBEBUSTERS: Hello everyone! Sorry I haven't been around but I will now get active in the chat again. I talked to Chris Monk and Mike Cavanaugh about our little dielectric problem and they don't think we will be able to shield it. We were tossing some ideas around on how to proceed and I will elaborate on that shortly...

"We already know that a 'huge' external Magnetic field messes it up quite nicely, but is too aggressive a move to use as an argument against the globe" completely eliminating the effect is a big ask. Richard Blades [10/09/2017 23:19:57]

see FOG Paste Bin Leak for the full text of the leak.

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 = The 15 Degrees Per Hour Incident =
-In the 2018 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behind_the_Curve Behind the Curve] Netflix documentary [[Bob Knodel]] admitted that a group of flat earthers had shown that a fiber optic gyroscope would rotate at "15 degrees per hour".
+In the 2018 [[Behind the Curve]]  Netflix documentary [[Bob Knodel]] admitted that a group of flat earthers had shown that a fiber optic gyroscope would rotate at "15 degrees per hour".
 This was a startling revelation in particular because Knodel had earlier in the documentary mentioned how he was trying to keep this information quite.
 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aFKfqLdw0 Numpty Clips - Bob Knodel Part 2]
+== Paste Bin Skype Leak ==
+How the Flat Earth mafia reacted to the data from the gyroscope is revealed from a skype chat that was leaked - excerpts below.
+"The FOG I have demonstrated can measure earth rotation rate. I've spun it on a 24 hour rotor and it can measure 15° per hour with ease. - '''[[Rick Zimmerman]]''' [17/08/2017 03:06:47]"
+I guess, like I said before, were only looking to effect the readings from the FOG in a 'passive' manner, rather than a 'brute force' method '''[[Richard Blades]]''' [10/09/2017 23:18:02]
+[12/09/2017 20:24:37] '''[[Richard Blades]]''': Mems and Mechanical gyros operate differently, they DONT use light...and in there I think is a clue
+[12/09/2017 20:56:38] '''[[Bob Knodel]]''': Good point Rick.  I guarantee you though if we went public with our current findings, the claims that we debunked our own model would be rampant because we clearly detected rotation.
+[13/09/2017 00:16:58] '''[[Rick Zimmerman]]''': There would be zero yaw on a globe at the equator.
+The “earth rate” yaw formula for the globe:
+times (sine of latitude)= yaw "earth rate"
+times (sine of 40.8687) = 9.81° per hour.  (Ashland, Ohio)
+...my one hour test was +7.394° (counter-clockwise rotation)
+With the gyro up-side down the unit measured -10.469° (clockwise) in one hour.
+So...we are measuring something close to expected globe rotation.
+degrees (yaw) per hour is only at the globe’s poles.
+[10/09/2017 23:16:49] '''GLOBEBUSTERS''': Hello everyone! Sorry I haven't been around but I will now get active in the chat again.  I talked to [[Chris Monk]] and [[Mike Cavanaugh]] about our little dielectric problem and they don't think we will be able to shield it.  We were tossing some ideas around on how to proceed and I will elaborate on that shortly...
+"We already know that a 'huge' external Magnetic field messes it up quite nicely, but is too aggressive a move to use as an argument against the globe" completely eliminating the effect is a big ask. '''Richard Blades''' [10/09/2017 23:19:57]
+see [[FOG Paste Bin Leak]]  for the full text of the leak.