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Yeah calling someone not the sanest person is definitely not bullying & calling him a vandal is definitely sincere

Im literally insane for looking at a local sun & saying it’s local . A lot of irony in that 😂😂

But anyways This anti gravity calculator you couldn't sneak G in even if you tried. 1000% gravity free, backed by science and empirical evidence, with sources on the extended version 😂😂😂 good luck. This calculator accounts for why things fall AND rise.. It also accounts for a vacuum, water, and oil. It hits the 9.8 constant without a single need for G. Good luck proving the force now that 9.8 can be hit without G….gravity is still unisolated, only assumed fiat force that only explains why things go down.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NsqxcEU0NlxqJjOOlZvzzVkNwJbQ0K2FPb2nYX126-E/edit?usp=drivesdk

Extended version with sources & mathematical bridge https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1feLbyeGzIxpya9sdqXm3VA6aY5FFPTAqXJ2qO2oPb6Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

Btw Im waiting For you guys to tell me where G is 😂😂😂😂😂… nah it’s gonna be comical this time .. ITS LITERALLY NOWHERE .. try using Ai to find it 😂😂

Well this is exciting!

I thought you'd ran away! Looking through this new document, its a complete mess. I don't know why you need so many tabs for what should be a simple calculation.

I haven't looked through it thoroughly, and I'm not going to unless you

State the formula the calculator is using
State where it appears in the calculator
Calculate the acceleration of the feather in vacuum using the formula and show the working out on this page.

If you can't do these three things because "its all in the calculator" (or whatever excuse you give), I'll know you don't actually understand anything because you had AI make it for you.

Make sure you add your reply beneath this one without deleting anything, since it seems like you still haven't learned how to use a wiki talk page.

Washcarso (talk)

If you actually opened the comprehensive calculation breakdown tab instead of hand waving from the jump, you'd see exactly how everything works. Here it is in plain English.

I guess all you want to know is How do I get the magical 9.8 without gravity?

FOR TEST 1

You take three measurements from a reference drop • Height: 2 meters • Time: 0.6388 seconds • Impact velocity: 6.26 m/s Those are just a stopwatch reading and a tape measure. Nothing assumed.

Then you run them through three different equations that all describe the same fall: • From height and time: a = 2h/t² = 9.8023 • From height and velocity: a = v²/2h = 9.7969 • From time and velocity: a = v/t = 9.7996 Three independent paths. They land within 0.06% of each other. You average them BOOM 9.7996 m/s².

ZERO GRAVITY NEEDED

How you find if it rises or falls..

you take that baseline & adjust it using the objects density contrast to the object's charge & electrostatic force (which the force is able to be isolated & manipulated) in our electrical field we are in (that’s testable , not assumed.)

There’s a detailed tab for you called the TEST EQUATIONS.. this gives a break down for each test result & all the inputs . You can do a feather vacuum , steel , wood , etc in water, air,oil or a vacuum

There’s nothing too messy , it’s that you can’t understand & always need to be hand held .. it’s Literally simple .. but the question is .. where’s the gravity ?????????????????????????😂😂😂😂😂😂

Btw the math works everytime consistently

Good luck trying sneak G INTO THAT

To answer “why so many tabs “ it’s to make the bridge easy to understand, Im simply Not just telling you an acceleration. Im giving The direction , the ability to change specifics about the test , the mathematical bridge to real life & sources on electrostatics, so you can’t say Im making It up .

Any bozo can tell you 9.8. But modeling the exact direction, calculating how acceleration changes depending on the medium, predicting the exact charge required to make an object rise or float or even for a helium balloon to sink, and testing for shielding dynamics …thats literally a mathematical art form. The equations & tabs are fully transparent so you can’t cry about hiding anything ..but now you’re crying about it being transparent.. so you’re just gonna cry about something either way

Saying ai did all this for me .. shows your ignorance about ai .. you just don’t wanna accept reality at that point .. literally I was The brains behind all of This .. saying it’s ai That did this is actually giving credit to me in disguise.. ai is trained on GRAVITY, I literally Had to train ai on the framework

You're using kinematics to get 9.8 m/s². This is what I initially suspected, so thanks for confirming.

Unfortunately, kinematics isn't a replacement for gravity (or any force). It describes motion without accounting for the forces causing the motion.

If finding the acceleration of a falling object using kinematics disproves gravity, then finding the acceleration of a car proves that engines don't exist.

Kinematics is a specific branch of mechanics that describes the motion of objects without reference to the forces causing the motion. Examples of kinematics include describing the motion of a racecar moving on a track or an apple falling from a tree, but only in terms of the object’s position, velocity, acceleration, and time without describing the force from the engine of the car, the friction between the tires and the track, or the gravity pulling the apple.

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Kinematics is the branch of classical mechanics that describes the motion of points, objects and systems of groups of objects, without reference to the causes of motion (i.e., forces ).

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We are still looking for a flat Earth explanation for the cause of motion. Which physical properties are responsible for causing the motion? And how do these physical properties determine the magnitude of the force?

You’re wrong ^^^^ and can’t look at the calculator .. stop STARWMANNING .. that’s literally ALL YOU Can DO ..

Washcarso (talk) 21:33, 7 October 2026 (EDT)

Classic STRAWMAN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you stopped reading the moment you saw the word "kinematics," quoted a textbook definition, and completely missed that kinematics was only used to establish the baseline acceleration constant (9.8). You ignored the entire rest of the calculator because it requires actual analytical work instead of a lazy hand wave. Every other tab handles the actual direction, the density contrast, the medium dependent changes, and the ELECTROSTATIC force channels. You literally depend on strawman because the calculator debunks gravity .. I proved how it works. LMAO COPE HARDER .. my calculator does exactly that .. in fact you didn’t even read the whole post where I clearly wrote HOW TO FIND THE DIRECTION .. & I wrote how it uses Electrostatic & density

So basically you didn’t even look at the calculator stopped at 9.8 & thought you did something…TRY AGAIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 my whole calculator is about electrostatic causing motion DOOFUS .. next time you reply actually speak about something you know .. next you time you reply & try to dismiss the calculator.. TRY BREAKING DOWN THE CALCULATOR… how ignorant can you be 😂😂😂 YOU LOST

Btw I arrived At 9.8 multiple ways .. look at the tab that says CCM .. zero kinematic .. still 9.8!.. 😂😂😂 you accuse me of dumb arguments because you only strawman then .. TALKING ABOUT GOOD FAITH .. YOURE FULL OF SHIT 😂😂😂 my calculator just proved you wrong again

The IRONY IS EVEN YOUR 9.8 doesn’t establish direction .. YOU ASSUME THE DIRECTION .. OMG you lost that one buddy 😂😂😂 because my calculator proves direction.. your 9.8m/s ^2 just assumes . You’re literally a hypocrite like I’ve always been saying

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOURE READY TO TALK SCIENCE DOGMA BOY.. You lost. Read the spreadsheet

kinematics was only used to establish the baseline acceleration constant (9.8).

This is the constant you can't account for without gravity. No one is saying other forces can't act on something at the same time.

^^ again I got To the constant without gravity , time height & velocity.. your argument is dumb 😂😂😂 you literally admitted it.. 9.8 is a scalar magnitude.. looks like you don’t even know what 9.8 at this point 😂😂😂😂

I can't find any tab that says "CCM", but if you have a seperate way of arriving at 9.8 that you think is equally valid, your explanation is inconsistent.

Washcarso (talk)

You just admitted I arrived at 9.8 without gravity .. YOUR 9.8 doesn’t establish direction either ..9.8 was never about direction .. it’s about ACCELERATION.. 😂😂😂😂😂 you can’t be this slow

What information contained in the number 9.8m/s^2 for gravity establishes DOWN as its direction?

NOTHING 😂😂😂😂 It's a scalar magnitude

Again CCM IS IN RED ..you’re playing this hypocrisy 9.8 game ..

If your whole argument is based on 9.8 you’ve been debunked .. actually attack the calculator because 9.8 is just acceleration not a direction & i proved to you, I was able to arrive at 9.8 without gravity .. YOU LITERALLY ADMITTED it .. again YOURE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF .. 😂😂😂😂 this is embarrassing for you

Again the calculator goes beyond just 9.8 .. actually have an argument this time ..TRY AGAIN

Acceleration is a vector quantity, not a scalar. The direction of 9.81 m/s² comes from the fact that masses attract each other. An object will fall down because thats the direction of the Earth's mass. The "information contained in the number" is its sign, in this case positive (+). Using the same sign convention, a negative acceleration would imply an acceleration acting upwards.

I'll happily concede that you have a calculator for predicting rates of fall that uses g = 9.8, but doesn't explain the force causing this acceleration. You have a 'gravity-free' calculator, but it doesn't disprove gravity in the slightest.

Recall this quote:

Examples of kinematics include describing the motion of a racecar moving on a track... without describing the force from the engine of the car [or] the friction between the tires and the track.

You effectively have a calculator that can predict the net acceleration of the racecar by factoring in things like friction and braking, but without describing the force from the car's engine. You measured the car's acceleration when no other forces were acting on it, and you use this value as part of finding the net acceleration.

Measuring this acceleration doesn't tell you anything about what is causing it. It doesn't tell you whether the racecar has a combustion engine or an electric motor. It doesn't tell you how many gears the gearbox has. It doesn't tell you whether it is rear wheel, front wheel, or all wheel drive. It doesn't tell you whether it uses petrol or diesel.

We're waiting for flat earthers to show an 'engine' that explains the value of 9.8 m/s²

Washcarso (talk)

Measuring this acceleration doesn't tell you anything about what is causing it. <<<<EXACTLY YOU JUST ADMITTED YOUR 9.8’doesnt tell you anything about direction .. this is too easy 😂😂😂

Your statement concedes that the measured acceleration alone doesn't establish its physical cause.. again you have no point 😂😂😂

LMAO YOU JUST ADMITED nothing in your calculation for 9.8 doesn’t have a direction 😂😂😂😂” TRUST ME BRO “ is not a direction 😂😂😂 masses attract each other is not a quantitative prediction of 9.8 m/s². It supplies a proposed interaction rule

If “ masses attract each other supplies a direction” Then “opposite electric charges attract” also establishes a directional interaction.

You can’t have it both Ways just because your model is mainstream .. but all you have is 9.8 my calculator is not just 9.8 but you’re treating like it is .. if you had more calculations then 9.8 you’d see it both Ways .. but even your calculations doesn’t supply a direction

BUT CCM DOES so you’ve been debunked 😂😂😂😂

9.8 is your whole CAR .. & for me 9.8 is the pedal .. that’s the part you’re missing .. my calculator supplies the whole engine .. the pedal doesn't tell you which way the car will travel. You need the rest of the system.

“The direction comes from the fact that masses attract each other."

There is no rule in physics requiring the numerical magnitude 9.8 m/s² to contain a direction or identify its physical cause.

You are stuck on 9.8 because that’s literally all you have .. so either neither of us has a direction in 9.8 ( which CCM does ) .. you’re being a hypocrite, or my Calculator goes beyond 9.8 & supplies the direction with acceleration.. CCM HAS BOTH .. you have NOTHING 😂😂😂😂

So unless you can debunk my calculator, you just admitted you have no direction in your equations & my calculator have both rise & fall 😂😂😂

So again What specifically in the numerical value 9.8 m/s² establishes that the acceleration is directed DOWNWARD? Point to the exact information contained in that number that establishes direction.

If you don’t have a number that does .. you’re being a hypocrite & should seek therapy…you’re no longer talking physics .. again 9.8 is all you have so that’s all you can defend which is sad .. because my calculator goes beyond 9.8 … actually attack the calculator .. there’s no rule in physics that states 9.8’must have a directional interaction… because YOU DONT EVEN HAVE THAT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is hilarious.. you are literally a hypocrite… & can’t attack the calculator.. which CCM ESTABLISHES everything you described & you haven’t even attacked that either

YOU LOST this one

a scientific standard has to apply equally to both sides.

Or you are no longer talking science .. simple as that .. if you are no longer talking science just acknowledge that

If you're going to repeat yourself, refer to my previous reply.

You don't have an engine, you are getting 9.8 from kinematics. Try to at least understand my point before feeding it to AI.

Your statement concedes that the measured acceleration alone doesn't establish its physical cause.

Yes, well done!

Washcarso (talk)

You literally are saying I cant Use physics in science .. which is a hell of an indictment on your model .. zero logic

it's called a gravity free calculator, not a “9.8”. That's the problem. So attack the calculator, kinematics is part of physics. You are no longer talking science.

You 9.8 you admitted doesn’t establish a direction . So what are you arguing about ?

saying I cant Use physics in science .. then your model is pseudoscience

Kinematics is literally 15% of the calculator 😂😂😂 TRY AGAIN

The calculator is the engine

Again if you don’t attack the calculator you’re just conceding my calculator establish direction & your only tactic is that I csnt Use physics ..

The kinematic equation is combined to establish direction with electrostatic & density .. that is pure 100% science

Saying I can’t use physics in science is not .

Stop being a hypocrite .. your 9.8 doesn’t establish direction

If you don't mind the absence of a force that explains where 9.8 comes from, then I won't fault your calculator.

Gravity does give direction, and I won't repeat myself as to how. Gravity plus other forces determines the direction of the resulting acceleration. Your calculator works the same way, you're just not labelling 9.8 as acceleration due to gravity.

Washcarso (talk)

If you don't mind the absence of a force that explains where 9.8 comes from, then I won't fault your calculator.<<<<< CCM HAS THAT .. ARE YOU SLOW ????

Gravity does give direction, <<<<<<<9.8 does not establish a direction

and I won't repeat myself as to how. Gravity plus other forces determines the direction of the resulting acceleration<<<< that’s an assumption, you haven’t proven that

Your calculator works the same way <<<<no it doesnt, it literally uses physics to establish acceleration & the acceleration with electrostatic forces due to density establishes the direction 9.8 is literally 15% of my calculator .. , you're just not labelling 9.8 as acceleration due to gravity<<<< i didn’t use gravity to get the acceleration 😂😂😂😂

CCM Has the force that electrostatic establishes 9.8 .. again what’s your next goal posts?

You said “masses attract each other “ that’s not a direction … What specific number or mathematical formula within 9.8 m/s² establishes that the acceleration is directed downward?

again you’re comparing 9.8 to a whole calculator that establishes direction

“I wont Repeat myself again “ Is not an answer .. you never answered that specific question ..

9.8 is a scalar magnitude not a direction .. you clearly don’t know what 9.8 is ..

You can’t attack the calculator so you’re resort to pseudoscience tactics .. First I cant Use physics & now you have a standard your model doesn’t even provide ..

’The direction of 9.81 m/s² comes from the fact that masses attract each other ’

attract is a verb, not a number. this is a phrase, not a derivation.

‘An object will fall down because that's the direction of the Earth's mass.’

this assumes the conclusion. Down is defined as toward earth's mass. that's a coordinate convention, not an output of the equation.

‘The information contained in the number is its sign, in this case positive (+)’  sign is not direction.

I could Do the same thing

‘Gravity does give direction, and I won't repeat myself as to how." "I won't repeat myself’

is a refusal to answer, not an answer.

YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT HYPOCRISY.. 😂😂😂😂😂

Again my calculator establishes direction Your 9.8 does not establish direction.. you just assume it

So What, specifically, in your calculation determines the acceleration?

What specifically in your calculation determines the direction?

Why does that mathematical combination suddenly equate to a physical acceleration caused by mass?

Kinematic answers all coherently … but your explanation doesn’t

The irony is Im the only one talking science here

What in $F = q E$ establishes a direction?

(I'm not saying your calculator uses this, but just answer the question)

By the way, please don't write over my reply. You can copy and paste what I write and add it to your own section.

Washcarso (talk)

Science is supposed to be transparent, interactive, & open to scrutiny. That means both sides can ask questions, challenge explanations, & expect their questions to be addressed, including uncomfortable ones.

What you’re doing is not a scientific rebuttal. You’re turning the discussion into a game of rhetorical chess, where you can ignore my questions while demanding answers to yours.

I can Easily answer your question which is a no brainer .. but you have to acknowledge mine so I can hold you accountable like you can do with Me so answer mine first

Your question wasn't ignored, you just didn't like my answer. Now lets hear your 'no brainer' answer to mine.

I'm trying to understand what a correct answer looks like to "how is the direction of $X$ force established?"

Washcarso (talk)

Then show me where you answered these two questions:

1. What specific calculations in your 9.8 equations determine the acceleration .. because it seems you guys put 3 words in a pot , then presto 9.8 (that you simply can get from a kinematics methodology that was already established centuries prior coincidentally)

2. Why does that mathematical combination suddenly equate to a physical acceleration caused by mass?

You never answer those specific questions .. the problem is you reduced my calculator to 9.8 & when I applied that same standard to your explanation, the restriction became a problem.. but the problem is what you originally did

You never answered those 2 questions , just answer or tell me you don’t know simple as that & I’ll respond Mr good faith

If you didn't like my first answer, then I don't have an answer for you.
The force of gravity depends on mass:

$F = G \frac{M m}{r^{2}}$

And a force creates an acceleration proportional to 1/m

$a = G \frac{M m}{m r^{2}}$

$a = G \frac{M}{r^{2}}$

So there you have it, a physical acceleration depending on M, which could represent the mass of the Earth.

Now lets see if you can answer my question, and now a second question:

What in $F = q E$ determines the direction?
Why does that mathematical combination suddenly equate to a physical acceleration caused by charge?

Remember this is your standard for accepting a force. You should be educating me on what a correct answer to these questions looks like. If you ask ask me any more questions before answering my two, this conversation will be over.

Washcarso (talk)

None of what you said gravity caused 9.8 nor acceleration .. you have to Much pride to say you don’t know Your response is the most sophisticated "trust me, bro" in physics history. your entire defense is to write out $a = G \frac{M}{r^{2}}$

& cancel out m to get  $a = G \frac{M}{r^{2}}$ . You’re literally Shuffling algebraic symbols around thinking someone won’t notice… but that  doesn’t  isolate a force. You are assuming mass causes acceleration in your very first variable, & when called out on it, you literally admitted defeat by writing "If you didn't like my first answer, then I don't have an answer for you."

Then you don’t have an answer 😂😂😂

“Remember this is your standard for accepting a force.”

Except I didn't introduce the requirement that a calculated acceleration must hav physical cause. YOU DID‼️‼️‼️ YOU INTRODUCED that requirement when criticizing my calculator & I exposed You for being a hypocrite remember, that’s how this started .. literally it’s in our history black & white 😂😂😂 you turned this into the 9.8 show . You’re literally said its My standard.. WHEN YOU INTRODUCED it 😂😂😂😂😂 WOW .. you’re insane at this point .. just proves how much your model requires special pleading

As for your strawman questions, E in F = qE is an established , empirical testable, DIRECTIONAL vector field MAP that can be isolated, measured, & shielded. Acceleration (a) is not an active physical entity,it’s a mathematical metric description of behavior over time, whether driving or falling . & your 2nd question misses the entire point. Acceleration (a) is not a force, it is a measurement, literally a scalar magnitude describing the rate of change of velocity.. You can’t isolate "acceleration" in a lab & treat it as the physical driver. It is simply the behavior resulting from a force. You have to prove the force is the cause of falling .. the acceleration is measurement of the falling not the force .. you assume that because the 9.8 describes the fall, it magically validates "mass attraction"

So you’re gonna have to actually attack the calculator .. you literally just admitted you have nothing but an algebraic shuffle to prove gravity to 9.8 ..& I never attributed a force for acceleration.. it’s literally a measurement .. YOU ASSOCIATE to a force .. but can’t prove it.. TRUST ME BRO IS NOT PROOF 😂😂😂😂

Btw my calculator describes a constant PER OBJECT based on its density & charge .. that’s why it can determine if the object goes UP OR DOWN … let’s put your 9.8 to the test vs my calculator because a helium balloon or piece of paper debunks your whole 9.8 .. that is not the constant for those items & my calculator accurately illustrates that …

You plug in a helium balloon or newspaper with accurate readings in my calculator & see how accurate it illustrates the constant based on real life & not just an arbitrary 9.8 .. your 9.8 already been debunked

So they're "strawman questions" when I ask them of you, how hypocritical.

E in F = qE is an established , empirical testable, DIRECTIONAL vector field MAP that can be isolated, measured, & shielded.

And how do you find the direction of E? Or do you only care about which term is directional, in which case that would be g in F=mg. If that answer is good enough for you, its good enough for me.

A helium balloon doesn't debunk gravity. I've told you more than one force can act on something at the same time. I know you understand this, because your own calculator adds multiple forces together.

Theres no further conversation to be had now. You don't have a force that explains 9.8 (yes, thats a requirement if you want to replace gravity). Go and learn basic physics, particularly what dynamics is.

Washcarso (talk)

So they're "strawman questions" when I ask them of you, how hypocritical. <<<< it’s a strawman because that has nothing to do with my calculator as a whole dimwit

E in F = qE is an established , empirical testable, DIRECTIONAL vector field MAP that can be isolated, measured, & <<< where did I say That equation is for 9.8 ??? YOU INTRODUCED THIS FOR ME 😂😂😂

And how do you find the direction of E? Or do you only care about which term is directional, in which case that would be g in F=mg. If that answer is good enough for you, its good enough for me.<<<<< E IS A DIRECTIONAL field map but again I never introduced this for the reason of 9.8 .. 9.8 is a scalar magnitude.. 9.8 is not a force ..9.8 isn’t gravity.. its acceleration you attribute to gravity by assumption .. not by providence .. you Couldn’t even explain the cause acceleration in your gravity calculations 😂😂

A helium balloon doesn't debunk gravity. <<< I never said it debunks gravity I said it debunks the 9.8 measurement again.. 9.8 is not gravity . It’s acceleration .. learn the difference..you rely on strawman arguments …I've told you more than one force can act on something at the same time. I know you understand this, because your own calculator adds multiple forces together. << again your 9.8 doesn’t have a direction in the equation & you can’t prove how acceleration is attributed to gravity in your equation.. you have 3 nouns & arbitrary numbers that magically produce 9.8

Theres no further conversation to be had now. <<< because you never even looked at the calculator & stuck on a number you can’t even prove yourself …. you literally stopped at 9.8 because that’s all you have ..You don't have a force that explains 9.8 <<<< you don’t have a force in your equations that proves acceleration is attributed (yes, thats a requirement if you want to replace gravity). <<< show me where that’s a requirement.. that’s your special requirement that you couldn’t produce yourself

Go and learn basic physics, particularly what dynamics is.<<< basic physics is knowing the difference between what acceleration is & a force .. none of which you can prove

Washcarso (Washcarso)

Basic physics starts with understanding a fundamental distinction, 9.8 is not a force, & 9.8 is not gravity. It is acceleration a scalar magnitude & a physics measurement.

If this were genuine science, you would actually accept the challenge, look at the calculator, and scientifically disprove it.

Instead, you stopped at 9.8 because 9.8 is all you have. You don’t understand the difference between a physics measurement and a physical force.

Show me where in physics an equation for 9.8 must inherently be a force.

You completely strawmaned the calculator by dragging in F = qE, which has nothing to do with 9.8, and used it to dodge the actual mechanics. You didn't address the calculator because it directly threatens your model, reducing your entire argument to a fundamental confusion between a metric and a mechanism.

Here’s a visual representation of the difference between 9.8 accerlation & a force . Maybe you’ll understand the picture because you clearly don’t understand words 😂😂😂

Your whole argument debunked because you don’t even know what 9.8 is 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 embarrassing .. and you’re supposed to be the science guy 😂😂😂😂

You've admitted you don't have a force that can account for 9.81. No more conversation needs to be had :)

A downward force of 9.81 newtons is acting on every kilogram of mass no matter what, even when the object is accelerating upward.

I'm sure this is mind blowing news to you, which is why I suggested learning basic physics. Washcarso (talk)

You've admitted you don't have a force that can account for 9.81. No more conversation needs to be had <<<< CCM HAS A FORCE in it for 9.8 …& 9.81 is a meausrment for acceleration.. the calculator proves the force behind the direction .. you measure the acceleration of the direction with physics .. how are you this stupid 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

A downward force of 9.81 newtons is acting on every kilogram of mass no matter what, even when the object is accelerating upward. <<< paper proves other wise 😂😂😂 you’re literally slow

So acceleration is on everything falling .. no shit .. but it’s not 9.8 .. you don’t even know the proper acceleration for paper falling because it’s not 9.8 😂😂😂 this is embarrassing .. so again you’ve been debunked

I'm sure this is mind blowing news to you, which is why I suggested learning basic physics <<<< basic physics is understanding the difference between Big G & little g 😂😂😂 which you clearly don’t understand

Im glad I have this all saved .. because you literally don’t know why 9.8 is measured in m/s^2 😂😂😂😂 because it’s not a FORCE .. your model attributes 9.8 to gravity but it’s not a measurement of gravity .. you literally are retarded 😂😂😂😂

CCM HAS A FORCE FOR 9.8 so you’ve been debunk for the 10th time here .. you keep ignoring that fact 😂😂😂😂

9.8 is A measurement for ACCELERATION NOT a force that’s why the units are in m/s^2 because it’s not a FORCE ..it’s a MEASUREMENT OF ACCELERATION …CCM HAS a force in the 9.8 equation .. how many times does someone have to say that ????

9.8 is all you have.. & that’s why you think it’s Gravity 😂😂😂😂

You LITERALLY are retarded & don’t know the difference 😂😂😂😂

You are taking the scalar acceleration metric (9.8m/s}^2), slapping units of Newtons onto it, and pretending it's an active physical agent even when physical reality (upward acceleration) directly contradicts your math. That isn't physics that's dogma.

😂😂😂9.81 is not a force again you literally are retarded & smiling about being stupid …the units are in m/s^2 to tell you that

Paper doesn’t fall at 9.8 .. so even by your own words you been debunked because 9.8 was never a measurement of gravity .. again it’s a scalar magnitude.. an estimated at that

Again the calculator proves the direction . 9.81 proves the measurement for acceleration

Gravity proves neither TRY AGAIN

you don’t even know the difference between big g & little g ..  you have to be the slowest arrogant glober of all time..

A 15 year could tell you that 9.8 is a scalar magnitude not a focrce 😂😂 The units are in m/s^2 for a reason 😂😂😂😂

😂 again accerlation is not a force .. CCM has a force for the constant .. which you ignore every single time because you’re stupid at this point .. everything you required I have .. you just won’t accept the fact my calculator debunks your whole gravity low standards .. 9.8 a measurement of acceleration 😂😂😂 how hard of concept is a that

Literally the m/s^2 literally tells you that ..

Let’s break it down for dumb dumb here If a car goes from 0 to 40 mph in 5 seconds, that’s a change in speed over time. We call that acceleration.

Is 40 mph a force? No. Is the acceleration a force? No.

Acceleration is measured in units like m/s². Force is measured in newtons.

The same applies to 9.8 m/s². That’s acceleration, not force.

This the reason it’s called m/s²

This whole page exposes how you never understood the difference between little g & big g 😂😂😂😂

You want a force for little g , when little g is not a force , while my

calculator Is illustrating BIG G 😂😂😂😂

This is the second time I'm asking you to not write over my reply, thank you.

For there to be any point in continuing this discussion, you need to accept Newton's second law of motion; $F = m a$

Classical mechanics tells us that for an acceleration to occur, there needs be a force acting on the object. Have you ever seen a car that doesn't have a motor accelerate from 0 to 40 mph on a level road? I didn't think so. There needs to be a force causing a torque on the wheels.

Classical mechanics also tells us that acceleration can be expressed in units of force per mass. Meters per second squared is identical to newtons per kilogram. Here is the proof:

$F = m a \Rightarrow a = \frac{F}{m}$

$a = \frac{Δ v}{t}$

$\frac{F}{m} = \frac{Δ v}{t}$

$∴ N / k g = m / s / s$

$∴ N / k g = m / s^{2}$

To make any progress in this discussion, I need you to answer this question:

Suppose a buoyant force of 0.49 newtons acts on a 0.05 kg balloon. What is the measured acceleration of the balloon?

I will then ask a follow up question if you answer correctly.

Washcarso (talk)

The moment you demand I accept Newton's Second Law as a metric conversion trick, you defeated your own argument. If acceleration were already a force, you wouldn't need to convert it into newtons.😂😂😂

It literally spelled out the difference for YOU

Force (F) Measured in newtons. Mass (m) Measured in kilograms. Acceleration (a) Measured in meters per second squared

The very act of conversion proves that acceleration & force are two distinct things.

You are truly not a bright as you try to let on

Acceleration was Always a measurement

There are 3 things my calculator distinguishes

The behavior.. An object falls, rises, slows, or reverses direction. The acceleration..The measured rate at which its velocity changes. The mechanism..The physical interactions your calculator proposes to explain that behavior.

Your entire model is a lazy one trick pony stuck on a blanket 9.8 m/^2 constant that can’t even account for why paper, feathers, & a helium balloons behave differently in the real world

You clearly never knew the difference between those .. never knew the difference between big G & little g

asking someone to find a force inside an acceleration measurement is like asking them to find an engine inside a tachometer reading.

The reading describes motion. The physical driver is a separate question you never understood the difference clearly … literally basic physics

As far as your balloon question literally my calculator answers your question .. a balloon doesn’t fall at 9.8 .. my calculator distinguishes the differences

So don’t ask me a question my calculator already clearly answers .. Again your refusal to examine my calculator proves you were never doing science.. science invites challenges, dogma doesn’t.. the proof is in your responses .. & you didn’t even know the difference between a measurement & a force

I even have Separate tab that tells you how much charge is needed to make A helium balloon FALL.. literally you want me to limit myself to 9.8 because that’s All you have 😂😂😂😂 that’s not my fault.. you have a one trick pony number that doesn’t even account for everything

I would like you to answer my question independently of the calculator so you can show me you understand what the calculator is doing. Use the values I gave you:

Suppose a buoyant force of 0.49 newtons acts on a 0.05 kg balloon. What is the measured acceleration of the balloon?

If you don't answer this question yourself (without the help of the calculator), I'm not going to respond. Washcarso (talk)

SO I HAVE A CALCULATOR & you’re asking me not to use it?? You’re literally are the definition of dogmatic .. you are a cancer to science 😂😂😂

If your objective really is to understand my calculator, the relevant questions would be about my calculator’s equations, inputs, assumptions, and predicted outputs.

It’s because you’re not .. you lying dogmatic mut .. you are not trying to understand shit about my calculator or else you would’ve checked it out & try to debunk it …you think people are going to fall for your dogmatic trick questions .. the only people who fall for the deception is the helicentric worshippers

😂😂😂 I don't care whether you respond or not because my calculator already solves that real world reality. 9.8 isn’t reality for a helium ballon in air .. my calculator proves that ..

-47.36226788

That’s the helium ballon answer .. prove it otherwise

How about you find me a helium balloon that falls at 9.8 m/s^2 in open air in real life? Until you can do that, your calculations are completely defeated by actual physics, & the calculator stands fully validated

My calculator is undefeated right now proving 9.8 isn’t reality for all objects .. all you have is 9.8 which is defeated when discussing a helium balloon or paper

You never were talking science , you’re stuck in your dogmatic bubble & don’t even know the difference between big G & little g

You literally thought acceleration was a force 😂😂😂 how dumb could you be not to know the difference between acceleration being a measurement… that’s why it’s expressed in M/s ^2 & you have to convert it

I dont Even think you have the brain power to debunk my calculator .. that’s why you focused on your one trick pony 9.8 which even true for paper & helium balloons 😂😂😂

You’re an embarrassment to science .. science invites challenges.. dogma literally does the opposite..

Guess what you’ve been doing ? DOGMA

Until you can disprove my calculator with real logic .. you are literally gargling newton’s nutsack

I get it you Worship Newton but science is supposed to invite challenges.. You do the opposite .. they have a perfect quotes on dogma that describes your behavior .

again I’ll repeat it since you’re no longer responding

There are 3 things my calculator distinguishes

The behavior.. An object falls, rises, slows, or reverses direction. The acceleration..The measured rate at which its velocity changes. The mechanism..The physical interactions your calculator proposes to explain that behavior.

DEBUNKED ✅

Your entire model is a lazy one trick pony stuck on a blanket 9.8 m/^2 constant that can’t even account for why paper, feathers, & a helium balloons behave differently in the real world

gravity isn’t real .. it can’t be isolated or manipulated .. you only ASSUME the force with chalkboard math …

you assume it’s real because your fixation on Narnia 😂😂 a place you’ll never go to

-47.36226788 That’s the helium ballon answer

Incorrect. You copied and pasted one of the numbers from the calculator. So not only do you not understand how your own calculator works, you don't even know how to input different values for force and mass.

Answer the question on your own this time:

Suppose a buoyant force of 0.49 newtons acts on a 0.05 kg balloon. What is the measured acceleration of the balloon?

If you give me another number from your calculator, I'll know you haven't done what I asked.

Washcarso (talk)

You thought I was Answering your question directly when i already called it a Trick? Are you slow ?

You wanted a balloon scenario.. so I gave You the scenario I already Had set .. i don’t care about your deity Newton😂😂😂 .. you could go praise him on sundays ..my calculator tells real life numbers per item .. not just a generic 9.8.

😂😂😂😂 & now you’re gonna tell me that The very thing I built, that you didn’t even examine through ..” I don’t understand 😂😂😂😂 “

This is ultimate cherry on top…

Look at the screenshot again

Release Constant −47.36226788 Electrostatic Acceleration (m/s²)−47.36226788

Rise/Fall Direction: RISE

It’s literally (m/s²)for a reason .. measuring ACCELERATION…

& −47.36226788 Because the helium balloon NEVER FELL.. so the constant is negative.. that’s actually real life equivalent.. you don’t even know how my calculator works.. A negative acceleration metric correctly reflects upward motion in a real world medium.

because all you know is 9.8 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That’s not a random copy paste error

But look how the hydrogen balloon fell in the vacuum. 9.8 .. this is what it looks like in the real world .. not just a lazy 9.8 evertytime .. because in air the hydrogen balloon release constant is -43.49894015 look below & helium balloon in the vacuum is 9.8

I was answering my version of your question with my calculator , that’s why I said I could care less if you respond .. I literally Called it a trick question & you thought I was Gonna respond directly to you ??😂😂😂😂

That’s why you didn’t look at the calculator.. because it INTIMIDATED YOU…..

my calculator is everything you don’t have & the frame work is 10x more Efficient than gravity could ever be .. so you think someone did this for me 😂😂😂

Not only you thought acceleration was a force

You ignorantly called me out about something I built & got wrong

& you definitely won’t take accountability

If you wanna be taught the calculator .. Next time Just ask .. but calling me out on what I built….but you was loud &

wrong .. now you look stupid & will shuffle around this  😂😂😂😂

Create a new object & debunk my calculator .. or you literally made a page about my calculator just to not debunk it 😂😂😂

You think my calculator is so advanced, that I dont Know how to use it.. that’s a whole compliment 😂😂😂 I’ll take it

Let’s wrap this page up with a document proof of my antigravity calculator being empirical .. let’s use NASA as a source since you worship them So much…✅

STUDY OF AN ELECTROSTATIC ZERO-GRAVITY WORK BENCH PROTOTYPE

Let's wrap up this page with yet another first law of flerf confirmation! Good to know you admit gravity is real and space is real, because the document says both of those things.

And you couldn't answer my question. Gravity confirmed, thank you.

Washcarso (talk)

Reification Fallacy for the Win🏆

The doc shows & proves how ELECTROSTATIC can easily replace Gravity .. literally the title say ZERO Gravity😂😂😂…my calculator proves Gravity is USELESS..

BEST PART my calculator has a section that now answers your trick questions.. now you don’t have to ask me again .. I dont Need to answer you , my calculator does 😂😂😂😂😂

Nice desperate attempt to save gravity .. because it needs SAVING 😂😂😂 you can’t debunk the calculator so you need semantics 😂😂😂

Thank you for your desperation 🫡

Either debunk my calculator.. or you made a page about my calculator just to not be able to debunk it.. what an obsessed idiot you are 😂😂😂😂

You can't do anything without having AI make a spreadsheet for you. That's why I wanted you to show the working out here. Can you seriously not do one simple physics calculation without the help of AI? Also, the answer is still wrong.

Where does that 9.8 m/s² "kinematic acceleration" come from again? Its not electrostatics, or else you'd be able to give me the equation that determines its magnitude.

If you can 'debunk' gravity by calling it "kinematic acceleration", then I can 'debunk' electrostatics by calling it "kinematic acceleration".

Kinematics doesn't explain where the acceleration comes from. If you still don't understand this by now, theres nothing I can do to help you. I'll let you enjoy the remaining time your cult has as it slowly dies out.

Washcarso (talk)

CCM ARRIVES AT 9.8 with electrostatics again & btw That’s the default sheet idiot 😂😂😂😂 i didn’t fill out the answer for you..its for you to do it …

again ACCELERATION IS NOT FORCE .. you still don’t understand the difference between big G & little g.. you could replace little g with little a because it’s not a force .. it’s a measurement of time, height & velocity.. simple physics

😂😂 that’s why it’s in m/s^2 .. DO YOU EVEN KNOW what m/s^2 is at this point? Do you understand why it’s in m/s^2 & you have to convert to a force?

My calculator is 15% kinematic.. the most important part is the object trajectory, rising or falling .. not some dumb 9.8.. why is that all you care about? .. my calculator proves how objects rise & fall through electrostatic & density.. 9.8 is the measured behavior, not the force ..

Do you think a tachometer is an engine?? Because right now that’s what you’re equating it ..

AGAIN CCM ARRIVES AT 9.8 CCM arrives at 9.8 CCM arrives at 9.8 CCM ARRIVES AT 9.8.. there’s MULTIPLE WAYS to arrive at 9.8

Gravity could use kinematic for 9.8, but it still has to prove DIRECTION 😂😂 that’s the part you’re not understanding.. it still has to prove the force behind the falling, not the force behind the 9.8 .. 9.8 is the measurement during the fall .. that’s why big G & little g are separated.. omg I have to break down your model for YOU 😂😂😂

How dumb can you be that you still don’t understand acceleration is a measurement .. 9.8 is the measurement of acceleration of objects falling .. do you need me to break it down for you?

Do you understand why it’s in m/s^2? Do you understand the difference between acceleration & a force?

There’s not a force needed .. but to shut the goalpost movers, CCM ARRIVES AT 9.8 again with electrostatics, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY it.. 3 more times?? Or 9.8 more times?? 😂😂😂

you’re repeating the same shit because that’s all you have, 9.8 & your deity Newton’s religion.. I thought this was science .. but it’s the “I love Newton” rerun episode

If you wanted me not to use the calculator, you wouldn’t build a page about it in the first place .. but now since you can’t debunk it, you don’t want me to use it .. so making a page about it was fan obsession

this page is useless 😂😂😂

but I get it .. if I couldn’t debunk a calculator, I’d ask someone not to use it either..

& if my force only has mass canceling each other out & 9.8, I’d stick to it as well

CCM arrives at 9.8 with electrostatics .. I guess I have to say it 9.8 times because that’s your lucky number

I built the calculator & I’m the architect.. AI implements it.. so now I have to fill the Excel sheet by hand, just like how you didn’t want me to use physics in science? What other rules do you have? I bet isolation & manipulation of a force isn’t a rule for you 😂😂😂😂

how about you ask AI to build you an electrostatic calculator in 24 hrs from scratch .. show me your results because then you’d understand the manual knowledge you have to provide ..

Denial is the most predictable human response

My calculator remains UNDEFEATED 🏆🏆

Your knowledge on acceleration remains LIMITED

New heading

Round and round we go.

CCM ARRIVES AT 9.8 with electrostatics

If that were the case you'd be able to show the equation :)

I'm still waiting for the correct answer to my question:

Suppose a buoyant force of 0.49 newtons acts on a 0.05 kg balloon. What is the measured acceleration of the balloon?

You seem to think you're schooling me on force and acceleration, yet you can't answer this very basic physics question about force and acceleration.

We're not talking about your calculator any more. It and gravity are not mutually exclusive.

Washcarso (talk)

I must Be schooling you because you didn’t refute a single thing I said

You made the page about the calculator, as long as the page is still up , that’s all Im referring To .

LITERALLY the CCM CALCULATION equations IS under the CCM 😂😂😂😂 how more stupid can I prove you at this point 😂😂😂😂 it’s honestly fun .. the more you respond .. the more ignorant I can Expose you 😂😂😂

My calculator answers your basic physics question so I dont Need to ..

You want the answer , enter your questions into calculator..lmk if you need guidance

You still haven’t shown where my calculator contains gravity… the article I sent you didn’t read shows easily how electrostatics Can replace gravity

My calculator shows you how useless gravity is .

😂😂😂 so you built a page about a calculator that you don’t wanna talk about .. well long as the page is still up .. that’s exactly what Im gonna Refer to . It answers all your questions

& you still don’t know the difference between big g & little g

Again acceleration is not a force

If acceleration is what you keep implying it is, explain why I can calculate acceleration separately for a steel ball, a feather, a sheet of paper, and a helium balloon, each with different magnitudes and directions, while you keep returning to a general 9.8 m/s².

So why is it m/s ^2 you still didn’t answer .. I dont Think you know why 😂😂😂😂😂

You keep repeating the same things that my calculator answers 😂😂😂 type your question in the calculator & you’ll get your answer … this is what you made your page about … that’s gonna be the very thing that answers all your questions

😂😂😂 you literally can’t stand the fact I built Something that proves gravity is useless & you can’t debunk it.. you can’t stand the fact that all you have is 9.8 & masses cancelling each other out .. a 3rd grade concept .. but gravity show how much force is needed to make a helium balloon sink ???

Welp too bad because my calculator does 🏆😂😂😂😂

You’re trying to put your limitations on me .. because the very thing you mocked , is the very thing you can’t debunk logically

The very thing you mocked , is the very thing you can’t stand now .. how much of beautiful ending is that

Your calculator and gravity aren't mutually exclusive
You read "zero-gravity" in the article title, while I actually read the article (and it proves you wrong)
You still can't answer my basic physics question

Flerfs are utterly pathetic.

Also, you keep telling me I "don’t know the difference between big G & little g". We know the units of little g are m/s², but just for fun, can you tell me the units of big G and how you worked them out?

Washcarso (talk)

Claiming my calculator contains gravity is one thing , yet you still haven't proved it..not even to a single line or equation where it's used. You didn’t even attempt to , that’s how bad it is … That’s because it doesn’t .. the calculator runs eon electrostatic charge density, density gradients, and medium dynamics.ZERO GRAVITY

the report literally states that the entire goal is 'the use of electrostatic forces in place of gravity'. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 NASA didn't use gravity, they built an electrostatic system to replace it because gravity isn't an isolated, testable, or manipulable force.

I love proving you stupid 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶 .. it’s a thing of beauty

& finally you’re the one still thinking acceleration is a force

If that wasn’t a case you wouldn’t had been so persistent in asking for a force behind 9.8

If you knew 9.8 was a scalar magnitude not a force .. why so many times in this convo you demanded a force for 9.8 ?

You wanted an engine behind a tachometer not knowing a tachometer is .. Acceleration isn’t a force & you didn’t know that or else the 9.8 convo would be irrelevant.. you probably still think it’s a force .. I bet You do ..

Why is it in m/s ^2 if you’re looking for a force ?? Why do you have to convert it to A force if it 9.8 m/s^2 is already a force ?

These are Rhetorical questions for dumb dumb

I’ll tell you why because you don’t understand the difference between big g & little g

You would’ve been left that alone ..but you insist because you don’t understand what m/s^2

So Im here to teach you about your own model .. just like I had to teach you what isolation is ..😂😂😂

You didn’t (probably still don’t ) understand what isolation & manipulation is

So again proving you stupid again .. can’t debunk my calculator again .. show me where my calculator contains gravity

You can’t so I’ll predict exactly what you’re gonna do .. you’re gonna reify your beliefs & say it contains Gravity because things fall down & 9.8 which CCM arrives at .. you know why ? Because denial is the most predictable human response .. The very same force that can’t be isolated or manipulated & is weaker than electrostatic by TRILLIONS .. yet you’ll claim gravity is doing the work 😂😂😂 why because you NEED to for Narnia .. your only proof of Narnia mutually exclusive with a force that can’t be isolated & manipulated .. pretty interesting coincidence right .. because the place you can’t go to , is the companied by the same force you can’t isolated & manipulated .. sounds petty fictional to me .. but I know it definitely doesn’t sound like science

You’ll make my predictions come true & that’ll be icy on this cake .. All you have left is to reify your beliefs

Reify reify reify reify reify reify reify reify reify reif ( I wrote that 9.8 times ) 😂😂😂😂

Reification fallacy is your go to move

The calculator stays undefeated until you debunk it

What’s next “ I dont Need to debunk it” is all you got

That’s because you can’t 😂 checkmate