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Flat earth scammer [[Dave Weiss]] claims to offer '''3 [[Wikipedia:Bitcoin|bitcoin]] (BTC)<ref group="note">As per the challenge's page on his website, though this figure has been known to vary between 1 BTC (~$US64,000) and 100 BTC (~$US6.4 million).</ref> for "one globe proof"'''. The "challenge" is detailed on [https://flatearthdave.com/challenge his website], and he constantly promotes it during his interviews. | Flat earth scammer [[Dave Weiss]] claims to offer '''3 [[Wikipedia:Bitcoin|bitcoin]] (BTC)<ref group="note">As per the challenge's page on his website, though this figure has been known to vary between 1 BTC (~$US64,000) and 100 BTC (~$US6.4 million).</ref> for "one globe proof"'''. The "challenge" is detailed on [https://flatearthdave.com/challenge his website], and he constantly promotes it during his interviews. | ||
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The challenge is really just a petty attempt to get people to give him money and watch his garbage content. | The challenge is really just a petty attempt to get people to give him money and watch his garbage content. | ||
On a | On a TikTok live in August 2026, Weiss refuses to make the challenge legally binding and essentially admits it is a fake challenge and confirms that it is just designed to promote his FE videos. <ref name=davechicken>[https://youtu.be/y68YNd-kgKw?si=xVdaet8j6H_cjKZ2&t=627 | ||
WhatKast video] FLAT EARTH Dave Chickens out of ANOTHER Challenge AND Planes DON'T Dip their Nose! </ref> | WhatKast video] FLAT EARTH Dave Chickens out of ANOTHER Challenge AND Planes DON'T Dip their Nose! </ref> | ||
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* '''Terms and contitions:''' no comprehensive terms and conditions, as all real competitions need to have. | * '''Terms and contitions:''' no comprehensive terms and conditions, as all real competitions need to have. | ||
* '''Requires payment:''' the challenge rules require reading through the FAQ page, which is behind a paywall.<ref>[https://www.prize-draw.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-winning-online-competitions/how-to-identify-and-avoid-fake-competitions-and-scams/ "How to identify and avoid fake competitions and scams" by Prize Draw UK]</ref> | * '''Requires payment:''' the challenge rules require reading through the FAQ page, which is behind a paywall.<ref>[https://www.prize-draw.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-winning-online-competitions/how-to-identify-and-avoid-fake-competitions-and-scams/ "How to identify and avoid fake competitions and scams" by Prize Draw UK]</ref> | ||
Furthermore, Dave has refused to rewrite the challenge's contract in a way that would make it legally binding, stating "theres one contract. Its my word". When pressed he said the Earth being a globe is "not worth my time", as if talking about the globe isn't all he does all day every day.<ref name="davechicken"/> Dave sometimes even [[Dave Weiss#Knowledge about the model|boasts about knowing more about the globe than globers]]. But yeah, its totally not worth his time. | |||
== List of globe proofs by Dave Weiss == | == List of globe proofs by Dave Weiss == | ||
Latest revision as of 09:26, 28 August 2026
Flat earth scammer Dave Weiss claims to offer 3 bitcoin (BTC)[note 1] for "one globe proof". The "challenge" is detailed on his website, and he constantly promotes it during his interviews.
As per the second law of flerf, this challenge is fake. Dave will never give away any money, and all globe evidence is rejected upon submission, no matter how compelling.
The challenge is really just a petty attempt to get people to give him money and watch his garbage content.
On a TikTok live in August 2026, Weiss refuses to make the challenge legally binding and essentially admits it is a fake challenge and confirms that it is just designed to promote his FE videos. [1]
Challenge rules
As set out on Dave's website, the proof must be
- Verifiable—anyone should be able to independently replicate it.
- Repeatable—it must produce consistent results every time.
- Observable—no purely mathematical models or theoretical arguments.
- No appeal to authority—citing sources like NASA images/videos alone is not sufficient.
Additionally, he requires that you either
- Watch the featured video of the day for 2 weeks on the Flat Earth Clock app, or
- Watch the first 10 videos in the Crash Course
And then you must
The FAQ page is behind a paywall. This means that in order to enter a valid submission, you must give Dave your money first. Because any evidence against Dave's cult is immediately rejected, Dave aims to make a profit off of every valid submission.
FAQ page
- See: Dave's FAQ
Fortunately for those hoping to enter a valid submission, the paywall can be bypassed by viewing the web page's source. The complete FAQ is on this page. As you read through them, bear in mind Dave justifies the paywall because "every answer on this page represents years of research, countless hours of debate, and a genuine passion for sharing the truth with the world."
Why bitcoin?
When Dave was asked why he chose to offer bitcoin rather than cash, he had this to say:
Well cash is just a fiat currency and its going to zero, the question is when. My opinion is it's already gone to zero, people just don't know it yet. And bitcoin is real money.[3]
Reasons the challenge is fake
- No escrow: the money is not in escrow; Dave still has complete control over his bitcoin and is under so obligation to pay up.
- Absurdly large prize money: this typically indicates the organiser knows their money is safe.
- Terms and contitions: no comprehensive terms and conditions, as all real competitions need to have.
- Requires payment: the challenge rules require reading through the FAQ page, which is behind a paywall.[4]
Furthermore, Dave has refused to rewrite the challenge's contract in a way that would make it legally binding, stating "theres one contract. Its my word". When pressed he said the Earth being a globe is "not worth my time", as if talking about the globe isn't all he does all day every day.[1] Dave sometimes even boasts about knowing more about the globe than globers. But yeah, its totally not worth his time.
List of globe proofs by Dave Weiss
Weiss himself has proved the globe on many occasions, but continues to promote his fake challenge.
His app uses the globe
His app, "Flat Earth Sun, Moon and Zodiac", uses the globe to compute distances on the surface of Earth. On the Gleason Map that his app displays, it would be very easy to compute distances using simple trigonometry. However, the source code reveals his app uses the Haversine formula. Dave knows that only the globe can accurately predict distances.
Southern flights
A great way to prove that the Earth is a ball is to take a trip from the tip of Africa, or better yet South America, to Australia or New Zealand and see if it takes 12 hours or the amount of time it should take if the Earth was a ball.
As part of the Final Experiment, Critical Think took a flight from SYD to SCL, and it took 11.5 hours; exactly the time the globe predicts.[5] Critical Think filmed the entire flight to prove the duration[6] and also tracked the flight's latitude and longitude, showing it was totally consistent with a globe.
By Dave's own standard, this is proof of the globe, but instead of paying up he had this to say.
Notes
- ↑ As per the challenge's page on his website, though this figure has been known to vary between 1 BTC (~$US64,000) and 100 BTC (~$US6.4 million).
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 [https://youtu.be/y68YNd-kgKw?si=xVdaet8j6H_cjKZ2&t=627 WhatKast video] FLAT EARTH Dave Chickens out of ANOTHER Challenge AND Planes DON'T Dip their Nose!
- ↑ "3 BTC Challenge Rules" by FlatEarthDave
- ↑ "TAKE THE BITCOIN CHALLENGE WITH FLAT EARTH DAVE" by The King of Main Street - A.K.A. Peter Merrick
- ↑ "How to identify and avoid fake competitions and scams" by Prize Draw UK
- ↑ "$650,000 for Globe Proof" by Conspiracy Toonz
- ↑ "Proof of the Globe according to David Weiss" by MCToon Live