TFE debunk attempts - Revision history

Washcarso at 10:41, 11 August 2026

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	= TFE not an experiment =		{{series tfe}}

			== TFE not an experiment ==
	In a debate against Will Duffy about TFE on Modern-Day Debate Flatzoid brought up a presentation about TFE not being an experiment and being a false dichotomy.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQqSOnGwRGk <q>DEBATE: Flat Earth and Antarctica Predictions \| Will Duffy Vs Flatzoid \| Podcast</q> by Modern-Day Debate]</ref>		In a debate against Will Duffy about TFE on Modern-Day Debate Flatzoid brought up a presentation about TFE not being an experiment and being a false dichotomy.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQqSOnGwRGk <q>DEBATE: Flat Earth and Antarctica Predictions \| Will Duffy Vs Flatzoid \| Podcast</q> by Modern-Day Debate]</ref>

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Ttguy: /* No 24h sun footage before TFE link for Ron Harris */

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No 24h sun footage before TFE link for Ron Harris

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	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
	'''Ron Harris (The Limitless Channel):''' Uh all the different videos of the sun in the south circling above the horizon started coming out last spring after Will announced his final experiment.		'''[[Ron Harris]] (The Limitless Channel):''' Uh all the different videos of the sun in the south circling above the horizon started coming out last spring after Will announced his final experiment.
	</blockquote><ref>[https://youtu.be/XzqbEp32c-E?t=1279 <q>SBVR Explains Every One of Duffy’s 12 “Experiments”: While SPACEBALL SHILLS McToon & FTFE Run & Hide</q> by Awake Souls]</ref>		</blockquote><ref>[https://youtu.be/XzqbEp32c-E?t=1279 <q>SBVR Explains Every One of Duffy’s 12 “Experiments”: While SPACEBALL SHILLS McToon & FTFE Run & Hide</q> by Awake Souls]</ref>

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	No airline would manipulate flight routes and time. To use a route that matches the globe on a flat earth, would require a lot more fuel and require the plane to be faster than it's physical possible for a commercial plane. Also people would notice if the trip took a significantly longer time or the plane flew that much faster.		No airline would manipulate flight routes and time. To use a route that matches the globe on a flat earth, would require a lot more fuel and require the plane to be faster than it's physical possible for a commercial plane. Also people would notice if the trip took a significantly longer time or the plane flew that much faster.

	For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together.		For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together, as MCToon shows.
			<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWg0mnS8uO0 <q>MCToon paper chart submission to Flat Out Hero's $100,000 challenge</q> by MCToon Live]</ref>

			[[File:Mctoon_flight_chart.png\|600px\|link={{filepath:Mctoon_flight_chart.png}}]]

	===Symmetry===		===Symmetry===

Graugnarz: /* Flight routes */

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Flight routes

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	===Flight routes===		===Flight routes===

	No airline would manipulate flight routes and time. To use a route that matches the globe on a flat earth, would require a lot more fuel and require the plane to be faster than it's physical possible for a commercial plane. Also people would notice if the trip took significantly longer time or the plane flew that much faster.		No airline would manipulate flight routes and time. To use a route that matches the globe on a flat earth, would require a lot more fuel and require the plane to be faster than it's physical possible for a commercial plane. Also people would notice if the trip took a significantly longer time or the plane flew that much faster.

	For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together.		For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together.

SourPounder: /* Toon and Duffy aging */

2026-05-25T21:12:51Z

Toon and Duffy aging

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	In the same video<ref name="flat tfe lie compilation"/> as in the previous lie, Flatzoid also claims that Toon and Will aged a lot, by comparing a video taken by a phone by one of the organizers of the Antarctica marathon, with the videos taken in Will's and Toon's home respectively. Something flerfs haven't done is to compare the videos Toon and Duffy took earlier in the year with the footage after TFE when the conditions are the same. It's like they know it won't work if they do that.		In the same video<ref name="flat tfe lie compilation"/> as in the previous lie, Flatzoid also claims that Toon and Will aged a lot, by comparing a video taken by a phone by one of the organizers of the Antarctica marathon, with the videos taken in Will's and Toon's home respectively. Something flerfs haven't done is to compare the videos Toon and Duffy took earlier in the year with the footage after TFE when the conditions are the same. It's like they know it won't work if they do that.

	The main problem is when were they supposed to be in Antarctica before? The marathon is only in southern summer, so if they went for example in June, they wouldn't have met the marathon guys. In fact they wouldn't even have met them if they went a week earlier or later. Furthermore in Southern ~~summer~~, Antarctica has 24h night. They also couldn't have gone a year earlier, as the first teaser was released on February 14 2024.		The main problem is when were they supposed to be in Antarctica before? The marathon is only in southern summer, so if they went for example in June, they wouldn't have met the marathon guys. In fact they wouldn't even have met them if they went a week earlier or later. Furthermore in Southern Winter, Antarctica has 24h night. They also couldn't have gone a year earlier, as the first teaser was released on February 14 2024.

	== Marathon runner breath ==		== Marathon runner breath ==

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	Eclipses can easily be predicted on the globe by knowing the positions of earth, moon and sun. The Saros cycle at most gives a day, but it can't predict the precise time, or the location.		Eclipses can easily be predicted on the globe by knowing the positions of earth, moon and sun. The Saros cycle at most gives a day, but it can't predict the precise time, or the location.

			===Photos of earth===

			There are plenty of photos of earth.

			Like the famous <q>Blue Marble</q> from Apollo 17.

			[[File:Blue_marble.webp\|500px\|link={{filepath:Blue_marble.webp}}]]

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			This classic photograph of the Earth was taken on Dec. 7, 1972, by the crew of Apollo 17.
			</blockquote><ref>[https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/blue-marble-view-from-apollo-17/ <q>The Blue Marble: The View From Apollo 17</q> by NASA]</ref>

			Or the <q>Hello World</q> photo taken by the Astronauts during Artemis II.<ref>[https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/hello-world/ <q>Hello, World</q> by NASA]</ref> This photo was taken on the night side of Earth. So it has a higher exposure, enabling people to see stars. Something that flerfs keep demanding.

			[[File:Artemis_blue_marble.webp\|600px\|link={{filepath:Artemis_blue_marble.webp}}]]

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	The Arctic and Antarctic Circles are based on the location where the sun is visible for 24h during at least one day. The mere existence of the Antarctic Circle contradicts the flat earth.		The Arctic and Antarctic Circles are based on the location where the sun is visible for 24h during at least one day. The mere existence of the Antarctic Circle contradicts the flat earth.

			===Eclipses===

			Eclipses can easily be predicted on the globe by knowing the positions of earth, moon and sun. The Saros cycle at most gives a day, but it can't predict the precise time, or the location.

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	[[File:Horizon_dip.jpg\|600px\|link={{filepath:Horizon_dip.jpg}}]]		[[File:Horizon_dip.jpg\|600px\|link={{filepath:Horizon_dip.jpg}}]]

			===Arctic and Antarctic Circle===

			The Arctic and Antarctic Circles are based on the location where the sun is visible for 24h during at least one day. The mere existence of the Antarctic Circle contradicts the flat earth.

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	The fact that the sun sets at 0° contradicts the flat earth.		The fact that the sun sets at 0° contradicts the flat earth.

			===Horizon Dip===

			As Wolfie6020 demonstrates, the HUD clearly shows the horizon below the altitude.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DDwx18JT9Y <q>The Horizon is not at Eye Level. Flying West over water with clear skies.</q> by Wolfie6020]</ref>

			[[File:Horizon_dip.jpg\|600px\|link={{filepath:Horizon_dip.jpg}}]]

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	For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together.		For long distance navigation the globe is used. Over shorter distances, pilots can use flight charts, which also result in the globe when put together.

			===Symmetry===

			The globe being symmetrical doesn't require flight routes over the South Pole.

			There are plenty of ways to verify distances on the globe. For example use the cruising speed of the plane and time of the flight to get a good approximation of the great circle route. You can also get the distance by long distance projects like railroads and undersea cables.

			===Sun set===

			The fact that the sun sets at 0° contradicts the flat earth.

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