Sea Sparrow - Revision history

MCToon at 03:54, 17 April 2026

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	The dishes are [https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/07.naval/karte047.en.html 7.5 feet tall]. Looking at the photo, measuring the pixels from the water to the bridge (468px) then the pixels to the center of the dish (78) and using the eye height of the bridge (64 feet) we get at least 10 feet higher than the eye height of the bridge for the center of the dish. Placing the radar at least 74 feet high.		The dishes are [https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/07.naval/karte047.en.html 7.5 feet tall]. Looking at the photo, measuring the pixels from the water to the bridge (468px) then the pixels to the center of the dish (78) and using the eye height of the bridge (64 feet) we get at least 10 feet higher than the eye height of the bridge for the center of the dish. Placing the radar at least 74 feet high.

	[[File:Ticonderoga_radar_height.png\|300px]		[[File:Ticonderoga_radar_height.png\|300px]]


	Targeting a ship on the surface will require a large ship, no dingy's. They will be large, at least 30 feet tall.		Targeting a ship on the surface will require a large ship, no dingy's. They will be large, at least 30 feet tall.

MCToon at 02:57, 17 April 2026

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	'''Therefore flat earth'''		'''Therefore flat earth'''
	This is simply a non-sequitur. Even if everything were correct. You can't even conclude "not globe" if everything he claimed was correct. Since there is a max distance there MUST be curve blocking the radar. The strongest conclusion would be a sphere with a larger radius. This would not match other measurements so be an outlier indicating flawed methodology or a blunder of some sort.		This is simply a non-sequitur. Even if everything were correct. You can't even conclude "not globe" if everything he claimed was correct. Since there is a max distance there MUST be curve blocking the radar. The strongest conclusion would be a sphere with a larger radius. This would not match other measurements so be an outlier indicating flawed methodology or a blunder of some sort.

			== Further Info ==

			Being a flerf, QE doesn't do research. If he did he would know that ships other than the one launching the missile can do the painting.

			[https://mctoon27.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/sea-sparrow-and-the-cec-16-04-aplteam.pdf\| The Cooperative Engagement Capability] gives an overview of how this works. Specifically mentioning the Sea Sparrow.

MCToon at 21:35, 16 April 2026

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 Each of these steps is incorrect.
 '''The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range'''
-Here's the claim from [[Quantum Eraser]]'s toilet paper brand called [[Book_Welcome_to_Flat_Earth|Welcome to Flat Earth]]
+Here's the claim from [[Quantum Eraser]]'s toilet paper brand called [[Book_Welcome_to_Flat_Earth|Welcome to Flat Earth]]:
 [[File:QE_Sea_Sparrow_1.png]]<br>
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 In context the lie is exposed.  The system doesn't have a range of 50km, the motor does.  That doesn't mean the system does.  The citation QE provides doesn't state the range of the system.  There are no sources that state the range of the system, this is classified.
-Further, the Sea Sparrow is a Surface to Air missile.  The range of an air target is significantly longer than a surface ship.
+Further, the Sea Sparrow is not strictly a surface to surface missile, it's also a Surface to Air missile.  QE's entire premise relies on surface to surface only.
 '''The ship launching it must paint the target with a "2° RF pencil beam"'''
-degrees is not pencil thin.  At 20km a 2° beam is nearly 700m wide.  Hardly pencil thin.
+degrees is not pencil thin.  At 20km a 2° beam is nearly 700m wide.  Hardly pencil thin.  But, it is true that the radar must pain the target for the Block 1 missile to hit it.
 "On board ship with a 50-foot radar height, Earth’s curvature should block targets beyond
 .9 km (8.65 miles) by 463 feet, yet the ESSM Block I hits targets over 50 km away."

MCToon: Created page with "The Sea Sparrow Missile is used in a claim by some flerfs to support the flat earth nonsense. As always this is based on lies, misunderstandings, and lies. The claim goes like this: # The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range # The ship launching it must paint the target with a "2° RF pencil beam" # It goes super far, too far for globe # Magic # Therefore flat Each of these steps is incorrect. '''The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range''' Here's the claim from Qua..."

2026-04-16T20:12:30Z

Created page with "The Sea Sparrow Missile is used in a claim by some flerfs to support the flat earth nonsense. As always this is based on lies, misunderstandings, and lies. The claim goes like this: # The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range # The ship launching it must paint the target with a "2° RF pencil beam" # It goes super far, too far for globe # Magic # Therefore flat Each of these steps is incorrect. '''The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range''' Here's the claim from Qua..."

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The Sea Sparrow Missile is used in a claim by some flerfs to support the flat earth nonsense. As always this is based on lies, misunderstandings, and lies.

The claim goes like this:
# The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range
# The ship launching it must paint the target with a "2° RF pencil beam"
# It goes super far, too far for globe
# Magic
# Therefore flat

Each of these steps is incorrect.
'''The Sea sparrow Missile has a long range'''
Here's the claim from [[Quantum Eraser]]'s toilet paper brand called [[Book_Welcome_to_Flat_Earth|Welcome to Flat Earth]]

[[File:QE_Sea_Sparrow_1.png]]<br>
Wow! 50km you say? He even [https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/evolved-sea-sparrow-missile-essm/ quotes a web page and links to it]. This is reverse psychology in action. Flerfs won't look, they think that since there's a citation it must be true. But, let's look at the context:

[[File:QE_Sea_Sparrow_2.png]]<br>
In context the lie is exposed. The system doesn't have a range of 50km, the motor does. That doesn't mean the system does. The citation QE provides doesn't state the range of the system. There are no sources that state the range of the system, this is classified.

Further, the Sea Sparrow is a Surface to Air missile. The range of an air target is significantly longer than a surface ship.

'''The ship launching it must paint the target with a "2° RF pencil beam"'''
2 degrees is not pencil thin. At 20km a 2° beam is nearly 700m wide. Hardly pencil thin.

"On board ship with a 50-foot radar height, Earth’s curvature should block targets beyond
13.9 km (8.65 miles) by 463 feet, yet the ESSM Block I hits targets over 50 km away."