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	[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]		[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]

			[[File:Anatomy of a Sunset-2 EDIT.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|The sun does not shrink when it sets, and instead goes beneath the observer.]]

	[[File:Flat Earth with Distant Sun.jpeg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|This diagram illustrates why universal day/night was a logical conclusion from the evidence available to ancient people.]]		[[File:Flat Earth with Distant Sun.jpeg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|This diagram illustrates why universal day/night was a logical conclusion from the evidence available to ancient people.]]

	~~[[File:Anatomy of a Sunset-2 EDIT.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|The sun does not shrink when it sets, and instead goes beneath the observer.]]~~

	Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.		Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.

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	[[File:Flat Earth with Distant Sun.jpeg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|This diagram illustrates why universal day/night was a logical conclusion from the evidence available to ancient people.]]		[[File:Flat Earth with Distant Sun.jpeg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|This diagram illustrates why universal day/night was a logical conclusion from the evidence available to ancient people.]]

			[[File:Anatomy of a Sunset-2 EDIT.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|The sun does not shrink when it sets, and instead goes beneath the observer.]]

	Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.		Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.

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	* '''Hebrew cosmology'''<br>The Bible does not give any clues about where the sun goes at night, except the use of “rise” and “set” in Matthew 5:45 and Ephesians 4:26. For more detail most sources, including Michael Heiser, look instead to the [[Wikipedia:Book of Enoch\|''Book of Enoch'']].<br>A 1909 Mormon source<ref>Ralph V. Chamberin, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:White_and_Blue_Vol_XIII_no._11_Dec_24_1909.djvu&page=18 White and Blue Vol XIII no. 11 Dec 24 1909], page 88</ref> summarized the evidence well:<blockquote>It was represented that in the eastern side or the face of the firmament there were six doors or portals through which the sun entered from chambers outside the vault, and that in the western side of the firmament there were also six portals. For thirty days the sun passed through the first portal and at evening, after traversing the sky, passed out through the corresponding opening in the west. At the end of the month the sun entered by the second portal; and so on until the sixth had been reached …</blockquote>		* '''Hebrew cosmology'''<br>The Bible does not give any clues about where the sun goes at night, except the use of “rise” and “set” in Matthew 5:45 and Ephesians 4:26. For more detail most sources, including Michael Heiser, look instead to the [[Wikipedia:Book of Enoch\|''Book of Enoch'']].<br>A 1909 Mormon source<ref>Ralph V. Chamberin, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:White_and_Blue_Vol_XIII_no._11_Dec_24_1909.djvu&page=18 White and Blue Vol XIII no. 11 Dec 24 1909], page 88</ref> summarized the evidence well:<blockquote>It was represented that in the eastern side or the face of the firmament there were six doors or portals through which the sun entered from chambers outside the vault, and that in the western side of the firmament there were also six portals. For thirty days the sun passed through the first portal and at evening, after traversing the sky, passed out through the corresponding opening in the west. At the end of the month the sun entered by the second portal; and so on until the sixth had been reached …</blockquote>

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	== Rowbothamist model ==		== Rowbothamist model ==

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	[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]		[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]

			[[File:Flat Earth with Distant Sun.jpeg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|This diagram illustrates why universal day/night was a logical conclusion from the evidence available to ancient people.]]

	Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.		Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.

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Pronunciation

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	In [https://www.youtube.com/live/fqIxroKMoT4?t=1h52m14s a livestream discussion] about this, at 2:01:35 Peter Markley and [[User:MCToon\|Michael Toon]] agreed to split the difference by:		In [https://www.youtube.com/live/fqIxroKMoT4?t=1h52m14s a livestream discussion] about this, at 2:01:35 Peter Markley and [[User:MCToon\|Michael Toon]] agreed to split the difference by:
	* Peter using the “th” sound like in ''thin'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒθəm~~/]]), and		* Peter using the “th” sound like in ''thin'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒθəm/]]), and
	* Michael using the “t” sound like in ''bottom'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒtəm~~/]]).		* Michael using the “t” sound like in ''bottom'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒtəm/]]).

	== References ==		== References ==

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	[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]		[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]

	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~ˈroʊbɒθəmɪzm~~/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~ˈroʊbɒtəmɪzm~~/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊˈbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊˈbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].

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	[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]		[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]

	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒθəmɪzm~~/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒtəmɪzm~~/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].

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	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an ~~alternate~~ term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].

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	“'''Rowbothamism'''” is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]], to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternate term for '''~~Zetetic Astronomy~~''' (see [[#Rowbothamist ~~Model~~\|below]]).		[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]

			'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternate term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].
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	[[:Category:Religiflerfs\|Religiflerfs]] also use their own false definition of the term [[Wikipedia:Biblical cosmology\|“Biblical cosmology”]] and spread it as [[Wikipedia:Misinformation\|misinformation]].		[[:Category:Religiflerfs\|Religiflerfs]] also use their own false definition of the term [[Wikipedia:Biblical cosmology\|“Biblical cosmology”]] and spread it as [[Wikipedia:Misinformation\|misinformation]].

	~~[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|center\|500px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]~~		== History of the term ==

	= ~~Pronunciation =~~

	Accounts seem to vary (even among UK English speakers) on whether the “TH” in “Rowbotham” is the [[Wikipedia:Voiceless dental fricative\|dental fricative]] (like in “thin”), or a [[Wikipedia:Voiceless dental and alveolar plosives\|“T” sound]] with a silent H.

	~~In [https://www.youtube.com/live/fqIxroKMoT4?t=1h52m14s a livestream discussion] about this, at 2:01:35 Peter Markley and [[User:MCToon\|Michael Toon]] agreed to split the difference by:~~
	* Peter using the “TH” sound like in “thin” and
	* Michael using the “T” sound like in “bottom.”

	= History of the term =

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	= Ancient cosmologies =		== Ancient cosmologies ==

	[[File:Ancient flat.png\|thumb\|~~center~~\|~~600px~~\|Depiction of a stereotypical ancient cosmology, showing the sun going underneath at night.]]		[[File:Ancient flat.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Depiction of a stereotypical ancient cosmology, showing the sun going underneath at night.]]

	[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|~~500px~~\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]		[[File:Cosmologies-parsed-v2.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]]'s research on ancient cosmologies, contrasting them against Rowbothamism.]]

	Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.		Contrary to Rowbotham's model, ancient cultures believed the sun left the inhabited world at night, usually by going underneath it. To them, daytime and nighttime were universal. No exceptions exist among world cultures whose cosmologies both survive and provide conclusive data.
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	* '''Hebrew cosmology'''<br>The Bible does not give any clues about where the sun goes at night, except the use of “rise” and “set” in Matthew 5:45 and Ephesians 4:26. For more detail most sources, including Michael Heiser, look instead to the [[Wikipedia:Book of Enoch\|''Book of Enoch'']].<br>A 1909 Mormon source<ref>Ralph V. Chamberin, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:White_and_Blue_Vol_XIII_no._11_Dec_24_1909.djvu&page=18 White and Blue Vol XIII no. 11 Dec 24 1909], page 88</ref> summarized the evidence well:<blockquote>It was represented that in the eastern side or the face of the firmament there were six doors or portals through which the sun entered from chambers outside the vault, and that in the western side of the firmament there were also six portals. For thirty days the sun passed through the first portal and at evening, after traversing the sky, passed out through the corresponding opening in the west. At the end of the month the sun entered by the second portal; and so on until the sixth had been reached …</blockquote>		* '''Hebrew cosmology'''<br>The Bible does not give any clues about where the sun goes at night, except the use of “rise” and “set” in Matthew 5:45 and Ephesians 4:26. For more detail most sources, including Michael Heiser, look instead to the [[Wikipedia:Book of Enoch\|''Book of Enoch'']].<br>A 1909 Mormon source<ref>Ralph V. Chamberin, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:White_and_Blue_Vol_XIII_no._11_Dec_24_1909.djvu&page=18 White and Blue Vol XIII no. 11 Dec 24 1909], page 88</ref> summarized the evidence well:<blockquote>It was represented that in the eastern side or the face of the firmament there were six doors or portals through which the sun entered from chambers outside the vault, and that in the western side of the firmament there were also six portals. For thirty days the sun passed through the first portal and at evening, after traversing the sky, passed out through the corresponding opening in the west. At the end of the month the sun entered by the second portal; and so on until the sixth had been reached …</blockquote>

	= Rowbothamist ~~Model~~ =		== Rowbothamist model ==

	[[File:Rowbotham.png\|thumb\|200px\|Portrait of [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]]]]		[[File:Rowbotham.png\|thumb\|200px\|Portrait of [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]]]]
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	This was the birth of [[flerfspective]]: the butchered mess that flerfs make of [[Wikipedia:linear perspective\|linear perspective]] as one of their most defining cult dogmas. To this day, they use it to explain [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]], [[Wikipedia:Hull down\|hull down ships]], and a variety of other phenomena.		This was the birth of [[flerfspective]]: the butchered mess that flerfs make of [[Wikipedia:linear perspective\|linear perspective]] as one of their most defining cult dogmas. To this day, they use it to explain [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]], [[Wikipedia:Hull down\|hull down ships]], and a variety of other phenomena.

	Rowbotham needed this on his model, which he called “'''~~Zetetic Astronomy~~''',” because of [[Wikipedia:Time zone\|time zones]]. To make a flat earth “work” in the modern world, Samuel Rowbotham had co-opted the [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal equidistant]] world map projection with the North Pole at the center. His sun supposedly traveled in circles overhead around the North Pole.		Rowbotham needed this on his model, which he called “'''zetetic astronomy''',” because of [[Wikipedia:Time zone\|time zones]]. To make a flat earth “work” in the modern world, Samuel Rowbotham had co-opted the [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal equidistant]] world map projection with the North Pole at the center. His sun supposedly traveled in circles overhead around the North Pole.

	[[File:Rowbotham map.jpg\|center\|400px\|World map drawn by Rowbotham]]		[[File:Rowbotham map.jpg\|center\|400px\|World map drawn by Rowbotham]]

	= Gleason ~~Map~~ =		== Gleason map ==

	Later, flat earther and Rowbothamist proselyte Alexander Gleason refined Rowbotham’s map with his patented<ref>US497917A https://patents.google.com/patent/US497917A/en</ref> “New Standard Map of the World.” This too was a co-opted [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal]] map, which suitably resembled Rowbotham’s but with more accurate geography.		Later, flat earther and Rowbothamist proselyte Alexander Gleason refined Rowbotham’s map with his patented<ref>US497917A https://patents.google.com/patent/US497917A/en</ref> “New Standard Map of the World.” This too was a co-opted [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal]] map, which suitably resembled Rowbotham’s but with more accurate geography.
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	[[File:Gleason Map.jpeg\|center\|400px\|The Gleason Map]]		[[File:Gleason Map.jpeg\|center\|400px\|The Gleason Map]]

	= References =		== Firmament ==

			In Rowbothamism, the '''firmament''' is a physical, celestial barrier separating the "waters above" from the Earth below; thought to contain all celestial bodies (or "luminaires"), including the Sun, Moon and planets. In Rowbothamism, it is used in essentially the same way that [[Wikipedia:Firmament\|ancient cosmologies used the term]].

			Most [[:Category:Flerfs\|modern flat earthers]] have adopted the term, and may also refer to it as the '''dome''' interchangeably. Despite the complete lack of evidence for its existence, flerfs have attempted to substantiate it by purporting that "[[Gas pressure requires a container\|you can't have gas pressure without a container]]" among other claims.

			=== Usage of the term in ''Zetetic Astronomy'' ===

			<blockquote>If, to ascertain the true figure and condition of the earth, we adopt the "Zetetic" process, which truly is the only one sufficiently reliable, we shall find that instead of its being a globe--one of an infinite number of worlds moving on axes and in an orbit round the sun, it is the directly contrary--a Plane, without diurnal or progressive motion, and unaccompanied by anything in <span style="color:#008080>the firmament</span> analogous to itself; or, in other words, that it is the only known material world.<ref>[https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za04.htm Chapter I]</ref></blockquote>

			<blockquote>It is useless to say, in explanation, that this very minute displacement, is owing to the almost infinite distance of the fixed stars; because the very same stars show an equal degree of parallax from a very minute base line; and, secondly, it will be proved from practical data, in a subsequent chapter, that all the luminaries in <span style="color:#008080>the firmament</span> are only a few thousand miles from the surface of the earth.<ref>[https://sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za21.htm Chapter III]</ref></blockquote>

			<blockquote>The above method of measuring distances applies equally to the moon and stars; and it is easy to demonstrate, to place it beyond the possibility of error, so long as assumed premises are excluded, that the moon is nearer to the earth than the sun, and that all the visible luminaries in <span style="color:#008080>the firmament</span> are contained within a vertical distance of 1000 statute miles.<ref>[https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za23.htm Chapter V]</ref></blockquote>

			== Pronunciation ==

			Accounts seem to vary (even among UK English speakers) on whether the “th” in “Rowbotham” is the [[Wikipedia:Voiceless dental fricative\|dental fricative]] (like in ''thin''), or a [[Wikipedia:Voiceless dental and alveolar plosives\|“t” sound]] with a silent "h".

			In [https://www.youtube.com/live/fqIxroKMoT4?t=1h52m14s a livestream discussion] about this, at 2:01:35 Peter Markley and [[User:MCToon\|Michael Toon]] agreed to split the difference by:
			* Peter using the “th” sound like in ''thin'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəm/]]), and
			* Michael using the “t” sound like in ''bottom'' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəm/]]).

			== References ==
	<references/>		<references/>

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	= Gleason Map =		= Gleason Map =

	Later, flat earther and Rowbothamist proselyte Alexander Gleason refined Rowbotham’s map with his patented<ref>US497917A https://patents.google.com/patent/US497917A/en</ref> “New Standard Map of the World.” This too was a co-opted [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal]] map which suitably resembled Rowbotham’s ~~map,~~ but with more accurate geography.		Later, flat earther and Rowbothamist proselyte Alexander Gleason refined Rowbotham’s map with his patented<ref>US497917A https://patents.google.com/patent/US497917A/en</ref> “New Standard Map of the World.” This too was a co-opted [[Wikipedia:Azimuthal equidistant projection\|azimuthal]] map, which suitably resembled Rowbotham’s but with more accurate geography.

	Flat earthers ever since have used this as an icon for their belief system.		Flat earthers ever since have used this as an icon for their belief system.

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	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~ˈroʊbɒθəmɪzm~~/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~ˈroʊbɒtəmɪzm~~/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊˈbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊˈbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].

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	[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]		[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]

	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒθəmɪzm~~/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/~~roʊbɒtəmɪzm~~/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/ˈroʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].

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	[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]		[[File:Rowbothamism venn diagram.png\|thumb\|right\|400px\|[[Wikipedia:Venn diagram\|Venn diagram]] contrasting Rowbothamism vs. ancient cosmologies]]

	'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an ~~alternate~~ term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).		'''Rowbothamism''' ([[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒθəmɪzm/]] or [[Wikipedia:Help:IPA/English\|/roʊbɒtəmɪzm/]]) is a term coined by [[User:PeterMarkley\|Peter Markley]] to help expose the [[Wikipedia:Historical negationism\|revisionist history]] of [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerfs]] and distinguish their [[Wikipedia:Cult\|cult]] [[Wikipedia:Denialism\|denialism]] from the honest ignorance of people in ancient cultures. It is an alternative term for '''zetetic astronomy''' (see [[#Rowbothamist model\|below]]).

	Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].		Flerfs falsely identify their view with ancient cosmologies. In reality, when their cult began with [[Wikipedia:Samuel Rowbotham\|Samuel Rowbotham]] in the 1800s, it was completely new and ideologically isolated due to its denial of [[Wikipedia:Sunset\|sunset]].