Michael Aftias - Revision history

Flerf Whisperer: Add Watersports for money section from X claim

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Add Watersports for money section from X claim

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	'''Blind faith is when you measure; certainty is when Mike feels it.''' Empirical evidence is "faith." His unevidenced stationary plane is not. That is not epistemology. That is a protection racket for a bad model.<ref name="debate"/>		'''Blind faith is when you measure; certainty is when Mike feels it.''' Empirical evidence is "faith." His unevidenced stationary plane is not. That is not epistemology. That is a protection racket for a bad model.<ref name="debate"/>

			== Watersports for money ==
			On X as '''aceshadowz''' / '''@aceshadowzCB''' he put it in writing: he <q>Plays watersports for money.</q> That is the urine-fetish cam menu sold as product — which is why the infobox '''drinks urine''' row is not empty. Christian brand optional; golden-shower invoice mandatory.

	== Christian brand, porn inventory ==		== Christian brand, porn inventory ==

Flerf Whisperer: Infobox drinks urine: X @aceshadowzCB "Plays watersports for money"

2026-09-20T06:29:19Z

Infobox drinks urine: X @aceshadowzCB "Plays watersports for money"

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	\| religiflerf=Yes — Christian when the camera is on; porn salesman when the invoice is due		\| religiflerf=Yes — Christian when the camera is on; porn salesman when the invoice is due
	\| incel=not yet confirmed		\| incel=not yet confirmed
	\| drinksUrine=~~not yet confirmed~~		\| drinksUrine=Yes — on X (@aceshadowzCB) he said he "Plays watersports for money"
	\| adoptedBy=[[User:Flerf Whisperer\|Flerf Whisperer]]		\| adoptedBy=[[User:Flerf Whisperer\|Flerf Whisperer]]
	\| teeth=present; standards missing		\| teeth=present; standards missing

Flerf Whisperer: Create Michael Aftias person page (MCToon Live debate 2026-09-16; Christian/porn hypocrisy; adopted by Flerf Whisperer)

2026-09-20T00:22:47Z

Create Michael Aftias person page (MCToon Live debate 2026-09-16; Christian/porn hypocrisy; adopted by Flerf Whisperer)

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	{{Infobox		{{Infobox
	\|realName=Michael Aftias		\| realName=Michael Aftias
	\|alias=~~Michael Ass He Kiss~~ <br>		\| alias=Mike<br>Aceshadowz<br>aceshadowzCB<br>Aceshadowzz
	\|image=File:~~Michael Aftias~~.jpg		\| image=File:Michael_Aftias_portrait.jpg
	\|location=~~California US~~		\| caption=Shirtless on the couch. This is the face of a decade of flat-earth "research."
	\|platform=[~~https://www.youtube.com/@boostmike YoutTube~~]		\| location=United States (coast)
	\|religiflerf=Yes		\| platform=[[MCToon Live]], FTFE, X, ManyVids, formerly Chaturbate
	\|drinksUrine=~~YES~~		\| papa=
	\|~~incel~~ = ~~YES~~		\| antisemite=not yet confirmed
	\|~~Teeth~~=~~Soon to be none, thanks cancer aticks~~		\| religiflerf=Yes — Christian when the camera is on; porn salesman when the invoice is due
			\| incel=not yet confirmed
			\| drinksUrine=not yet confirmed
			\| adoptedBy=[[User:Flerf Whisperer\|Flerf Whisperer]]
			\| teeth=present; standards missing
	}}		}}

	~~He like~~ to ~~go fast, coz he brain go really really so slow~~....~~Is said~~ to ~~have snacked~~ on ~~lead paint as~~ a ~~youngster~~. ~~He is evidence, first hand, that huffing is dangerous and has serious~~ side ~~effects~~.		'''Michael Aftias''' (also "Aftais," "Aas," or whatever the automatic captions invent that week) is a United States [[:Category:Flerfs\|flerf]] who spent about a decade not researching flat earth, then showed up on [[MCToon Live]] ready to lose for six and a half hours.<ref name="debate">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KxmkEdC6Y LIVE! Flerf Debate vs Michael Aftias], MCToon Live, YouTube, uploaded 16 September 2026</ref> He says the Earth is flat and stationary. He says Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. He also sells videos of himself having sex on ManyVids and used to cam on Chaturbate under '''aceshadowz'''. Those last two are not a Christian ministry. They are a side hustle with worse lighting than the debate.

	~~Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all~~ the ~~5 boxes~~ of ~~science denial. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see~~ the ~~flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh~~.		[[File:Michael_Aftias_portrait.jpg\|thumb\|center\|800px\|Couch cam authenticity. The curtains are doing more work than the model of the Earth.]]

	~~But ithi should come as no surprise~~, as he is ~~your typical conspiracy theorist~~.		== Origin story: Netflix, Nibiru, and a friend named "brother" ==
			On MCToon Live he explained how a serious man arrives at a stationary plane.<ref name="debate"/> Mid-to-late twenties. Weird spot in life. Wanted to know "how we got here." Grew up not religious — "like an atheist through high school." Then Netflix offered a documentary about ancient Sumerian tablets, Nibiru, and Tiamat getting yeeted by a moon until the asteroid belt fell out. Mike told all of this to a close friend he insists on calling his brother (not a blood brother; an only child with a branding problem). The friend said Earth is not a ball. Mike took it "with more than a grain of salt," went on the roof to watch stars, compared Genesis to vibes, and one day it "clicked" like a revelation.

	~~His acceptable standard~~ of ~~evidence is~~ "~~The Scientific Fact~~", which is ~~observable~~ and ~~repeatable, but then switches immediately~~ to ~~I have to be there to witness it, when it suits~~ him. ~~He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's~~. ~~It is classic double standard at play~~.		Asked for the number-one positive flat-earth fact that convinced him, he could not name one. MCToon's list of convincing measurements stayed empty. Mike's positive case opened with "Earth doesn't move," which is a slogan, not a measurement. A decade in, and the conversion story still starts with streaming conspiracy content and a friend who never lied to him. Peer review by vibes. Science by Netflix.

	~~He has shown his face~~ on [[FTFE~~]] multiple~~ times~~, and recently decided~~ to go on [[MCToon]] to ~~promote his incredible ignorance of modern day understandings of~~ the ~~world we live in~~.		== Debate résumé ==
			* Featured on FTFE a couple of times; Craig recommended him to MCToon.<ref name="debate"/>
			* 16 September 2026: ~6h34m on [[MCToon Live]] titled <q>LIVE! Flerf Debate vs Michael Aftias</q>.<ref name="debate"/>
			* Ten years as a flatearther by his own count, with the honesty to admit he did not spend those years researching "non-stop like it's my job."<ref name="debate"/> Correct. The transcript is the job interview.

	~~Is so dumb~~, ~~does~~ not ~~know the difference between imperial and metric measurements~~.		=== Greatest hits ===
			'''Wind is stronger than gravity, therefore vibes.''' He argued gases of different masses should layer, then decided wind "overcomes" gravity, then asked where wind comes from, then got told pressure gradients, then summarized "Gravity's wind." Misquoting the other guy is not a win. It is a tell.<ref name="debate"/>

	~~Claims [[Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration]]~~ is ~~what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector~~.		'''Flat lines mean no gravity.''' Shown a plot of constant downward acceleration (~9.8 m/s²), he announced that flat lines mean there is no gravity. Constant acceleration looks like a flat line on that plot. An EEG joke wrote itself. He did not notice.<ref name="debate"/>

	~~Has arguably~~ the ~~most [https:~~/~~/www~~.~~youtube~~.~~com~~/~~live/v0KxmkEdC6Y?si=0kD8CX_w5itG7qDa&t=13910 disgusting fingernails] in existence.~~		'''Hypocrite standards, one-way street.''' He demanded globe analogs he would never accept as flat-earth analogs, refused the container-held-sideways test for his own "no gravity / water sticks" implications, then declared oceans flat while offering zero measurements — photographs and published work "don't count," only Mike going outside right now with the webcam counts. He could not take the webcam. Standards are for other people.<ref name="debate"/>

	~~Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo~~.~~com~~		'''Blind faith is when you measure; certainty is when Mike feels it.''' Empirical evidence is "faith." His unevidenced stationary plane is not. That is not epistemology. That is a protection racket for a bad model.<ref name="debate"/>

			== Christian brand, porn inventory ==
			Late in the debate, after MCToon needled the "pretend religious person" bit, Mike answered:

			<blockquote>I don't pretend to be a religious person. I mean, I'm a Christian.<br>…<br>He is. [Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior.]</blockquote>
			<ref name="debate"/>

			Cute. Now inventory the other tab.

			* X account '''aceshadowz''' / '''@aceshadowzCB''' (joined December 2016): sites <code>aceshadowz.com</code> / <code>aceshadowz.site</code>; posts mix Subaru WRX STI freeway-roll clips with <q>VID SOLD!</q> ManyVids promos for videos he is in (age-gated adult content).<ref name="xsc">Local archive: <code>screencapture-x-aceshadowzCB-2026-09-16-12_19_44.png</code> and <code>image.webp</code> in the Michael Aftias folder</ref>
			* January 2021 forum posts as '''Aceshadowzz''' / friend '''comicalmoodydan''': Chaturbate account '''aceshadowz''' banned after ~five years of cam modeling since 2016; email '''aceshadowZ@yahoo.com'''; personal site Aceshadowz.com; claimed the name was painted on his wall.<ref name="forum">Local archive: <code>image-1.webp</code>, <code>image-2.webp</code>, <code>image-3.webp</code></ref>

			Selling recordings of yourself in porn is not a Christian witness. It is not "family friendly debate night" energy. It is not complicated theology. It is '''hypocrisy''' with a ManyVids SKU — the same quality of standard he brings to gravity, water, and "measurements right now." Jesus is Lord until the shower scene ships. Then Jesus can wait in the green room while #MVSales trends.

			The flerf scientific method and the flerf moral method are the same trick: announce a standard, apply it to everyone else, exempt yourself when it would cost you a claim or a paycheck.

			== Art: Ace paints "Space is fake!" ==
			Local archive includes amateur canvases signed '''Ace''': a girl flying a kite and a tethered NASA astronaut under <q>Space is fake!</q> and <q>#research flat earth</q>; another titled Princess Jaslene with a UFO asking what kind of sorcery this is, next to a Meade telescope box. The paintings are more coherent than the atmospheric physics. That is not praise for the paintings.

			== See also ==
			* [[MCToon]]
			* [[Category:Religiflerfs\|Religiflerfs]]

			= References =
			<references/>

			[[Category:Flerfs]]
	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]
			[[Category:Religiflerfs]]

SourPounder at 05:52, 18 September 2026

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	Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all the 5 boxes of science denial. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.		Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all the 5 boxes of science denial. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.

			But ithi should come as no surprise, as he is your typical conspiracy theorist.

	His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.		His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.

Ttguy: clickable Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration

2026-09-16T14:57:07Z

clickable Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration

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	Is so dumb, does not know the difference between imperial and metric measurements.		Is so dumb, does not know the difference between imperial and metric measurements.

	Claims Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration is what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector.		Claims [[Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration]] is what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector.

	Has arguably the most [https://www.youtube.com/live/v0KxmkEdC6Y?si=0kD8CX_w5itG7qDa&t=13910 disgusting fingernails] in existence.		Has arguably the most [https://www.youtube.com/live/v0KxmkEdC6Y?si=0kD8CX_w5itG7qDa&t=13910 disgusting fingernails] in existence.

SourPounder at 12:38, 16 September 2026

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	Claims Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration is what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector.		Claims Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration is what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector.

			Has arguably the most [https://www.youtube.com/live/v0KxmkEdC6Y?si=0kD8CX_w5itG7qDa&t=13910 disgusting fingernails] in existence.

	Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com		Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com

	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

SourPounder at 12:34, 16 September 2026

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	He like to go fast, coz he brain go really really so slow....Is said to have snacked on lead paint as a youngster. He is evidence, first hand, that huffing is dangerous and has serious side effects.		He like to go fast, coz he brain go really really so slow....Is said to have snacked on lead paint as a youngster. He is evidence, first hand, that huffing is dangerous and has serious side effects.

	Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all the boxes. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.		Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all the 5 boxes of science denial. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.

	His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.		His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.

SourPounder at 12:30, 16 September 2026

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	He like to go fast, coz he brain go really really so slow....Is said to have snacked on lead paint as a youngster. He is evidence, first hand, that huffing is dangerous and has serious side effects.		He like to go fast, coz he brain go really really so slow....Is said to have snacked on lead paint as a youngster. He is evidence, first hand, that huffing is dangerous and has serious side effects.

	Is a classic science denier, ticking all the boxes. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.		Is a classic science denier and has a massive lack of critical thinking, ticking all the boxes. Did he build the engine in his car, was he present at his birth, did he see the flat erf ice wall to ice wall, with all continents in between, nuh uh.

	His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.		His acceptable standard of evidence is "The Scientific Fact", which is observable and repeatable, but then switches immediately to I have to be there to witness it, when it suits him. He also does not accept video or images/photo's as proof, but demands glober's to provide this very proof he nuh uh's. It is classic double standard at play.

SourPounder at 12:09, 16 September 2026

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	Is so dumb, does not know the difference between imperial and metric measurements.		Is so dumb, does not know the difference between imperial and metric measurements.

			Claims Incoherent Dialectic Acceleration is what causes things to fall down, or the downward vector.

	Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com		Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com

	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

SourPounder at 12:05, 16 September 2026

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	He has shown his face on [[FTFE]] multiple times, and recently decided to go on [[MCToon]] to promote his incredible ignorance of modern day understandings of the world we live in.		He has shown his face on [[FTFE]] multiple times, and recently decided to go on [[MCToon]] to promote his incredible ignorance of modern day understandings of the world we live in.

			Is so dumb, does not know the difference between imperial and metric measurements.

	Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com		Want email me at aceshadowz@yahoo.com

	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]