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		<title>Ttguy: NathanOakley1980 - gas go down go boom boom</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;NathanOakley1980 - gas go down go boom boom&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Rowbothamism#Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&amp;#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Rowbothamism#Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&amp;#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Ttguy</name></author>
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		<title>Washcarso at 08:40, 19 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-19T08:40:53Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Gas go down go boom boom.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[Nathan Oakley]]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Gas go down go boom boom.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[Nathan Oakley]]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Wikipedia:&lt;/del&gt;Rowbothamism#Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Rowbothamism#Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
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		<title>Washcarso at 08:40, 19 June 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Rowbothamism#&lt;/ins&gt;Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Common adages include&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Common adages include&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>https://www.flerf.info/index.php?title=Gas_pressure_requires_a_container&amp;diff=8926&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Washcarso at 15:14, 3 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-03T15:14:32Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Gas pressure meme.webp|thumb|Example of a meme showing flerfs&amp;#039; misunderstanding of gas pressure.]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Gas pressure meme.webp|thumb|Example of a meme showing flerfs&amp;#039; misunderstanding of gas pressure.]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Gas go down go boom boom.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;amp;mdash;[[Nathan Oakley]]&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&amp;#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Gas pressure requires a container#Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&amp;#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Washcarso at 15:03, 3 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-03T15:03:39Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l9&quot;&gt;Line 9:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas pressure is defined as gas molecules pressing against the walls of the container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Air exerts pressure on anything it comes into contact with, not just the walls of any container.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas pressure is defined as gas molecules pressing against the walls of the container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Air exerts pressure on anything it comes into contact with, not just the walls of any container.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Of course, Earth is sufficiently [[Wikipedia:Mass|massive]] for [[Wikipedia:Gravity|gravity]] to contain the atmosphere. Many flerfs think that gas isn&#039;t affected by gravity,&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Flat Earthers don&#039;t think anything is affected by gravity (becuase they don&#039;t think it exists) but many seem to think gravity wouldn&#039;t even affect gas in theory.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;but this is incorrect. Gas has mass and is affected by gravity just as much as any other form of matter. In a gravitational field, gas settles into a [[Wikipedia:Pressure gradient|pressure gradient]] such that the [[Wikipedia:Pressure-gradient force|upward force due to pressure differences]] perfectly balances the downward force due to gravity; a situation known as [[Wikipedia:Hydrostatic equilibrium|&#039;&#039;&#039;hydrostatic balance&#039;&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://geo.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Meteorology_and_Climate_Science/Atmospheric_Processes_and_Phenomena/01%3A_Atmospheric_Basics/1.04%3A_Hydrostatic_Balance? &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;1.4: Hydrostatic Balance&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by LibreTexts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This pressure gradient is observed in the atmosphere and is easily measurable, even with [https://phyphox.org/ a mobile phone app]. Contrary to popular belief, the gradient is not necessarily caused by the fact that gravity is weaker further from Earth&#039;s surface.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Of course, Earth is sufficiently [[Wikipedia:Mass|massive]] for [[Wikipedia:Gravity|gravity]] to contain the atmosphere. Many flerfs think that gas isn&#039;t affected by gravity,&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Flat Earthers don&#039;t think anything is affected by gravity (becuase they don&#039;t think it exists) but many seem to think gravity wouldn&#039;t even affect gas in theory.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/live/XcRa8I4nqAQ?si=QyXnngfsardANIGV&amp;amp;t=2381 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;FED 1961 LIVE Twianges McKeegan Vs Gas Pressure&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980] [[Brian&#039;s Logic 666|Brian&#039;s Logic]] goes so far as to claim that gas doesn&#039;t even have mass.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;/ins&gt;but this is incorrect. Gas has mass and is affected by gravity just as much as any other form of matter. In a gravitational field, gas settles into a [[Wikipedia:Pressure gradient|pressure gradient]] such that the [[Wikipedia:Pressure-gradient force|upward force due to pressure differences]] perfectly balances the downward force due to gravity; a situation known as [[Wikipedia:Hydrostatic equilibrium|&#039;&#039;&#039;hydrostatic balance&#039;&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://geo.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Meteorology_and_Climate_Science/Atmospheric_Processes_and_Phenomena/01%3A_Atmospheric_Basics/1.04%3A_Hydrostatic_Balance? &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;1.4: Hydrostatic Balance&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by LibreTexts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This pressure gradient is observed in the atmosphere and is easily measurable, even with [https://phyphox.org/ a mobile phone app]. Contrary to popular belief, the gradient is not necessarily caused by the fact that gravity is weaker further from Earth&#039;s surface.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the firmament were exclusively responsible for containing the atmosphere, there would not be a pressure gradient. Instead, air pressure would equalise everywhere. Even if the firmament were real, it would not be what is containing the atmosphere.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the firmament were exclusively responsible for containing the atmosphere, there would not be a pressure gradient. Instead, air pressure would equalise everywhere. Even if the firmament were real, it would not be what is containing the atmosphere.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
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		<title>Washcarso at 14:05, 3 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-03T14:05:53Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flerfs assert that the atmosphere is a violation of the [[Wikipedia:Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]], claiming [[Wikipedia:Entropy|entropy]] implies air should disperse into outer space.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/live/XcRa8I4nqAQ?si=MTID_Wn1-bATAue2&amp;amp;t=1913 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;FED 1961 LIVE Twianges McKeegan Vs Gas Pressure&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ironically, flerfs cite physical laws when they think it suits them, while rejecting others like the [[Wikipedia:Newton&amp;#039;s law of universal gravitation|law of gravity]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flerfs assert that the atmosphere is a violation of the [[Wikipedia:Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]], claiming [[Wikipedia:Entropy|entropy]] implies air should disperse into outer space.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/live/XcRa8I4nqAQ?si=MTID_Wn1-bATAue2&amp;amp;t=1913 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;FED 1961 LIVE Twianges McKeegan Vs Gas Pressure&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ironically, flerfs cite physical laws when they think it suits them, while rejecting others like the [[Wikipedia:Newton&amp;#039;s law of universal gravitation|law of gravity]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The second law of thermodynamics actually deals with heat transfer. A very basic way the second law is described is by two bodies with different temperatures in contact: heat from the warmer body will transfer to the cooler body until the two are the same temperature. The second law has been demonstrated to students by illustrating a volume filled with gas next to a volume with a vacuum. When the wall dividing the two is removed, the  gas will disperse to fill the available volume. This is only an analogy for the second law and does not define it.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;If the sun were to disappear, the atmosphere would slowly radiate heat out into space, but it would still be held onto by Earth&#039;s gravity.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flerf demonstrations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flerf demonstrations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Washcarso at 13:38, 3 June 2026</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Gas pressure meme.webp|thumb|Example of a meme showing flerfs&amp;#039; misunderstanding of gas pressure.]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Gas pressure meme.webp|thumb|Example of a meme showing flerfs&amp;#039; misunderstanding of gas pressure.]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Flat Earthers like to claim that [[Wikipedia:Gas|gas]] (specifically the gas in [[Wikipedia:Atmosphere of Earth|Earth’s atmosphere]]) can only exert [[Wikipedia:Pressure|pressure]] if it is contained by some tangible, airtight barrier, often citing the [[Wikipedia:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Gas pressure requires a container#&lt;/ins&gt;Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] as the reason for this. The argument is used to imply the existence of a [[Wikipedia:Firmament|firmament]] that contains the atmosphere.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLJ5XJP3uE &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;You can&#039;t have gas pressure without a container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by i.am.reverence]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZpy0pJiSPo &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas PRESSURE Gradient&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Common adages include&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Common adages include&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Flerfs assert that the atmosphere is a violation of the [[Wikipedia:Second law of thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]], claiming [[Wikipedia:Entropy|entropy]] implies air should disperse into outer space.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/live/XcRa8I4nqAQ?si=MTID_Wn1-bATAue2&amp;amp;t=1913 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;FED 1961 LIVE Twianges McKeegan Vs Gas Pressure&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ironically, flerfs cite physical laws when they think it suits them, while rejecting others like the [[Wikipedia:Newton&#039;s law of universal gravitation|law of gravity]].&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flerf demonstrations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flerf demonstrations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Washcarso at 12:42, 3 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-03T12:42:11Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas pressure is defined as gas molecules pressing against the walls of the container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Air exerts pressure on anything it comes into contact with, not just the walls of any container.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Gas pressure is defined as gas molecules pressing against the walls of the container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Air exerts pressure on anything it comes into contact with, not just the walls of any container.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Of course, Earth is sufficiently [[Wikipedia:Mass|massive]] for [[Wikipedia:Gravity|gravity]] to contain the atmosphere. Many flerfs think that gas isn&#039;t affected by gravity,&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Flat Earthers don&#039;t think anything is affected by gravity (becuase they don&#039;t think it exists) but many seem to think gravity wouldn&#039;t even affect gas in theory.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  but this is incorrect. Gas has mass and is affected by gravity just as much as any other form of matter. In a gravitational field, gas settles into a [[Wikipedia:Pressure gradient|pressure gradient]] such that the upward force due to pressure differences perfectly balances the downward force due to gravity. This pressure gradient is observed in the atmosphere and is easily measurable, even with [https://phyphox.org/ a mobile phone app]. Contrary to popular belief, the gradient is not necessarily caused by the fact that gravity is weaker further from Earth&#039;s surface.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Of course, Earth is sufficiently [[Wikipedia:Mass|massive]] for [[Wikipedia:Gravity|gravity]] to contain the atmosphere. Many flerfs think that gas isn&#039;t affected by gravity,&amp;lt;ref group=note&amp;gt;Flat Earthers don&#039;t think anything is affected by gravity (becuase they don&#039;t think it exists) but many seem to think gravity wouldn&#039;t even affect gas in theory.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  but this is incorrect. Gas has mass and is affected by gravity just as much as any other form of matter. In a gravitational field, gas settles into a [[Wikipedia:Pressure gradient|pressure gradient]] such that the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Wikipedia:Pressure-gradient force|&lt;/ins&gt;upward force due to pressure differences&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;perfectly balances the downward force due to gravity&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;; a situation known as [[Wikipedia:Hydrostatic equilibrium|&#039;&#039;&#039;hydrostatic balance&#039;&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://geo.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Meteorology_and_Climate_Science/Atmospheric_Processes_and_Phenomena/01%3A_Atmospheric_Basics/1.04%3A_Hydrostatic_Balance? &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;1&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;4: Hydrostatic Balance&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by LibreTexts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;/ins&gt;This pressure gradient is observed in the atmosphere and is easily measurable, even with [https://phyphox.org/ a mobile phone app]. Contrary to popular belief, the gradient is not necessarily caused by the fact that gravity is weaker further from Earth&#039;s surface.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the firmament were exclusively responsible for containing the atmosphere, there would not be a pressure gradient. Instead, air pressure would equalise everywhere. Even if the firmament were real, it would not be what is containing the atmosphere.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the firmament were exclusively responsible for containing the atmosphere, there would not be a pressure gradient. Instead, air pressure would equalise everywhere. Even if the firmament were real, it would not be what is containing the atmosphere.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Washcarso</name></author>
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		<title>Washcarso at 12:30, 3 June 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Simulations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Simulations==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[File:Metabunk gas simulation.png|thumb|Screenshot of [https://www.metabunk.org/gas/ Mick West&#039;s simulation on Metabunk], showing how the gravity of a planet creates an atmosphere with a pressure gradient.]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Very basic atmospheric simulations show that it is possible for gravity to contain air. Mick West&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62NS-q57vQ &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Why the Atmosphere Does Not Fly off into Space&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by Mick West]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and okreylos&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwk4mSFFop0 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Why Does The Vacuum Of Space Not Suck Away Our Atmosphere?&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by okreylos]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; have coded their own, and both show that gravity will result in a pressure gradient.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Very basic atmospheric simulations show that it is possible for gravity to contain air. Mick West&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62NS-q57vQ &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Why the Atmosphere Does Not Fly off into Space&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by Mick West]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and okreylos&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwk4mSFFop0 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Why Does The Vacuum Of Space Not Suck Away Our Atmosphere?&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by okreylos]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; have coded their own, and both show that gravity will result in a pressure gradient.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Washcarso at 12:19, 3 June 2026</title>
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		<updated>2026-06-03T12:19:52Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Second law of thermodynamics==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Flerf demonstrations==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Flerfs have attempted to prove that gas pressure requires a container through physical demonstrations:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*[[Nathan Oakley]] tried to show that the atmosphere should get sucked into space by bursting a [[Wikipedia:Balloon|balloon]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://youtu.be/2xlZU9Et928?si=2xJEIWy30jCKfwXt&amp;amp;t=87 &amp;lt;q&amp;gt;Conspiracy Catz Should Not Be A Teacher! Gas Pressure Without A Container&amp;lt;/q&amp;gt; by NathanOakley1980]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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