Flatter Day Saints - Revision history

SourPounder at 04:51, 18 February 2026

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	== February 2025 Debate vs. ADHD Projects ==		== February 2025 Debate vs. ADHD Projects ==

	FDS got absolutely demolished in a debate on Modern Day Debate channel. It was a masterclass in how NOT to debate. The format was 10-minute opening statements followed by open discussion, which gave FDS plenty of time to embarrass himself.		[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iea25FdMFDA FDS] got absolutely demolished in a debate on Modern Day Debate channel. It was a masterclass in how NOT to debate. The format was 10-minute opening statements followed by open discussion, which gave FDS plenty of time to embarrass himself.

	=== The 5 Ds of Flerfing ===		=== The 5 Ds of Flerfing ===

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	= Other Info =		= Other Info =
	* Spreads [[Wikipedia:QAnon\|QAnon]] conspiracy theories.		* Spreads [[Wikipedia:QAnon\|QAnon]] conspiracy theories.
	* Is responsible for creating the [[~~"Kid~~ in a ~~basement"~~ rumor]].		* Is responsible for creating the [[“Kid in a basement” rumor]].

	[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]		[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

Toona: Added snark, the 5 Ds of flerfing, Gotta lie to flerf, expanded personal attacks

2026-02-16T06:55:07Z

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	== February 2025 Debate vs. ADHD Projects ==		== February 2025 Debate vs. ADHD Projects ==

	FDS ~~participated~~ in a ~~formal~~ debate on Modern Day Debate channel ~~against globe-earther ADHD Projects~~. The ~~debate~~ format was 10-minute opening statements followed by open discussion ~~and Q&A~~.		FDS got absolutely demolished in a debate on Modern Day Debate channel. It was a masterclass in how NOT to debate. The format was 10-minute opening statements followed by open discussion, which gave FDS plenty of time to embarrass himself.

	=== ~~Debate Style~~ ===		=== The 5 Ds of Flerfing ===

	FDS ~~exhibited several characteristic flat earth debate tactics~~:		FDS demonstrated all five Ds of flerfing: '''Duck, Dodge, Deflect, Dumb, and Duck''' (yes, duck twice—he's that good at it).

	'''~~Burden of Proof Shifting~~:''' ~~FDS opened by claiming he "doesn't need to defend flat earth because it's what our senses tell us" and that globe earth is the "extraordinary claim."~~ When ~~pressed to explain~~ how southern star trails work on a flat earth, ~~he repeatedly stated~~ "I don't know, I've never been to the Southern Hemisphere."		'''Duck & Dodge:''' When asked how southern star trails work on a flat earth, FDS dodged with "I don't know, I've never been to the Southern Hemisphere." Classic flerf move—if you can't explain it, pretend you haven't seen it!

	'''~~Semantic Obstruction~~:''' FDS ~~spent significant time arguing about definitions (~~"~~level~~" ~~vs. "flat," "geometry" definitions) rather than addressing evidence~~. ~~When~~ ADHD ~~cited Merriam-Webster's definition of level including "conforming to~~ the ~~curvature of the liquid parts of earth's surface~~," FDS ~~dismissed it~~.		'''Deflect:''' When presented with theodolite photos showing horizon dip, FDS deflected by claiming the horizon was "in the middle" of the photos. Even when ADHD pointed out the dip angle markers, FDS kept deflecting. Gotta lie to flerf!

	'''~~Deflection and Topic Changing~~:''' ~~When presented with evidence~~ of ~~horizon dip angles measured by theodolite~~, ~~FDS claimed the photos showed the horizon~~ "~~in the middle~~" ~~despite clear evidence~~ to the ~~contrary~~. ~~When asked to explain southern star trails, he pivoted to discussing the zodiac wheel~~.		'''Dumb:''' FDS tried to redefine geometry as "measurement of the earth" (geo = earth, get it bro??) and argued that "level" means flat even when shown Merriam-Webster's definition explicitly mentioning "conforming to the curvature of the liquid parts of earth's surface." The density was strong with this one.

	'''~~Appeals to Unverified Sources~~:''' FDS ~~cited an "Army Research Laboratory book called Propagation of Electromagnetic Fields Over Flat Earth" but~~ admitted he ~~hadn't read it~~. ~~He also claimed cell phone signals don~~'~~t go forever "because signals die out" while dismissing radar distance measurements to the sun and moon.~~		'''Duck (again):''' When asked about how two observers in Australia and Africa can both look south and see stars rotating around the same point, FDS ducked completely. Just full-on admitted he had no explanation. At least he's honest about being clueless?

	~~'''~~Personal Attacks~~:''' FDS called ADHD "disingenuous," "intellectually dishonest," and "bro" dismissively throughout the debate.~~		=== Personal Attacks ===

	~~=== Evidence Presented ===~~		FDS couldn't argue the science, so he went for the classics:
			* Called ADHD "disingenuous" when photos didn't match FDS's delusions
			* "Intellectually dishonest" — projection much?
			* "Bro" — used condescendingly approximately 47 times
			* "It's almost laughable, bro" — said while being laughably wrong
			* Accused ADHD of being "conditioned" (classic conspiracy theorist projection)
			* "You're being dishonest, bro" — the mating call of the defeated flerf
			* Claimed ADHD didn't understand basic concepts he clearly understood better than FDS

	~~FDS attempted to use the following arguments:~~		=== Evidence? What Evidence? ===

	* '''Zodiac Wheel:''' Claimed astrologers use flat earth models ~~(without~~ evidence)		FDS presented these galaxy-brain arguments:
	* '''Airplanes:''' ~~Stated~~ "~~they~~'re called airplanes because they go over a plane"		* '''Zodiac Wheel:''' Claimed astrologers use flat earth models. No evidence provided, just vibes.
	* '''Neil deGrasse Tyson Misquote:''' Claimed Tyson said earth looks flat from 120,000 feet ~~(actually a misrepresentation of comments about~~ fisheye lens distortion)		* '''Airplanes:''' "They're called airplanes because they go over a plane." Yes, really. That's the argument.
	* '''~~Eratosthenes Experiment~~:''' ~~Claimed it would work on flat earth (incorrect — the experiment measures angles consistent with~~ a ~~sphere)~~		* '''Neil deGrasse Tyson Misquote:''' Claimed Tyson said earth looks flat from 120,000 feet. Actually Tyson was commenting on fisheye lens distortion. FDS gotta lie to flerf!
	* '''Density:''' ~~Attempted~~ to claim density explains falling objects, dismissed vacuum chamber experiments ~~showing~~ feathers and bowling balls ~~falling~~ at same rate		* '''Army Research Lab Book:''' Cited a book he admitted he hadn't read. Peak flerf scholarship.
			* '''Density:''' Tried to claim density explains falling objects, then dismissed vacuum chamber experiments where feathers and bowling balls fall at the same rate. "That would be great if we lived in a vacuum, bro." Yes, because removing air resistance proves gravity exists, not density.

	=== ~~Key Failures~~ ===		=== The Meltdown ===

	When ~~asked directly to explain:~~		When cornered on southern star trails, FDS admitted: "I don't know" and "I can't prove" the flat earth model. He also admitted he had no explanation for how observers in different southern hemisphere locations see stars rotating around the same point. The earth isn't flat, but FDS's understanding of it sure is.
	* '''Southern star trails ~~rotating around a southern celestial pole:'''~~ FDS admitted "I don't know" and ~~claimed he~~ "can't prove" the flat earth model
	* '''How two observers in ~~Australia and Africa can both look south and~~ see stars rotating around the same point~~:''~~' FDS ~~deflected and eventually admitted he had no explanation~~
	* '''Sunset directions by hemisphere:''~~' Dismissed evidence without explanation~~

	=== ~~Closing Statement~~ ===		=== Verdict ===

	FDS ~~ended~~ with a religious appeal: "If I were to die today~~, right now, before my Creator,~~ I solemnly swear and attest to everything I said knowingly is true ~~and observable~~." ~~He then~~ promoted his ~~YouTube~~ channel and invited ~~viewers~~ to debate "direct energy weapons, chemtrails and radium."		FDS got bodied so hard he had to end with a religious appeal: "If I were to die today... I solemnly swear and attest to everything I said knowingly is true." When the science fails, appeal to God—that's the flerf way! Then he promoted his channel and invited people to debate "direct energy weapons, chemtrails and radium." Because when you lose on flat earth, pivot to even crazier conspiracies.

	~~=== Verdict ===~~

	~~FDS demonstrated typical~~ flerf ~~debate tactics~~: ~~burden-shifting~~, ~~definitional quibbling~~, ~~dismissal of evidence without counter-evidence~~, ~~and appeals to unverified conspiracy sources~~. ~~When pressed on specifics of his own model, he repeatedly admitted ignorance or inability to explain observed phenomena~~.		Classic flerf performance: Duck, dodge, deflect, lie, attack, repeat. FDS executed the playbook flawlessly. 🦝

	= Other Info =		= Other Info =

Toona: Added debate analysis from Feb 2025 debate vs ADHD Projects

2026-02-16T06:45:55Z

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 = Known Accounts =
 * [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]
 = Other Info =
 * Spreads [[Wikipedia:QAnon|QAnon]] conspiracy theories.
-* Is responsible for creating the [[“Kid in a basement” rumor]].
+* Is responsible for creating the [["Kid in a basement" rumor]].
 [[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
 [[Category:Religiflerfs]]
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	= Other Info =		= Other Info =
	* ~~Single-handedly created~~ the [[“Kid in a basement” rumor]].		* Spreads [[Wikipedia:QAnon\|QAnon]] conspiracy theories.
			* Is responsible for creating the [[“Kid in a basement” rumor]].

	[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]		[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

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	== Known Accounts ==		= Known Accounts =
	* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]		* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]

			= Other Info =
			* Single-handedly created the [[“Kid in a basement” rumor]].

	[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]		[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

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ICSpin at 07:48, 12 December 2024

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	\|platform=[https://www.youtube.com/ YouTube]\|antisemite=yes\|religiflerf=yes\|drinksUrine=YES}}

	==~~= YouTube Channel =~~==		== Known Accounts ==
	* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]		* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]

	[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]		[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
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	* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]		* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]

	[[Category:~~YouTuber~~ flerfs]]		[[Category:YouTube flerfs]]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]

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	* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]		* [https://www.youtube.com/@FLATTER-DAY-SAINTS FLATTER DAY SAINTS]

	[[Category:~~YouTubers~~]]		[[Category:YouTuber flerfs]]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]