Chris Vanam - Revision history

Bagelsofpies at 22:59, 4 October 2026

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The Debunker: /* Succa and the “ginger knight” poem */

2026-10-02T21:20:02Z

Succa and the “ginger knight” poem

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	* the poem was several pages long;		* the poem was several pages long;
	* Chris described himself as a “ginger knight”;		* Chris described himself as a “ginger knight”;
	* he attempted to redefine “MILF” as “Mother I ~~would~~ forage for”; ~~and~~		* he attempted to redefine “MILF” as “Mother I'd forage for”;
	* Succa publicly rejected him.		* Succa publicly rejected him.

The Debunker: /* Relationship with Amanda */

2026-10-02T21:19:30Z

Relationship with Amanda

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	The accuracy of a woman's argument is not determined by her appearance, body type, relationship history, or Chris's opinion of her.		The accuracy of a woman's argument is not determined by her appearance, body type, relationship history, or Chris's opinion of her.

	=== Relationship with ~~Amanda~~ ===		=== Relationship with Flat Earth Woman ===

	Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as ~~'''Amazda'''~~. ~~Members of the community have~~ alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as (Redacted). Dhe has alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.

	~~Amazda~~ subsequently left the TikTok flat-Earth community. Her departure has been attributed by members of that community to Chris's treatment of her~~, although a direct public statement or recording from Amazda should be added before that explanation is treated as independently established.{{Citation needed}}~~		(redacted) subsequently left the TikTok flat-Earth community. Her departure has been attributed by members of that community to Chris's treatment of her

	~~This section should be updated if Amazda has publicly described the relationship in her own words.~~		Chris also Pubblicly Doxxed (Redacted) street address

	== Succa and the “ginger knight” poem ==		== Succa and the “ginger knight” poem ==

The Debunker: /* Relationship with Amazda */

2026-10-02T21:17:01Z

Relationship with Amazda

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	The accuracy of a woman's argument is not determined by her appearance, body type, relationship history, or Chris's opinion of her.		The accuracy of a woman's argument is not determined by her appearance, body type, relationship history, or Chris's opinion of her.

	=== Relationship with ~~Amazda~~ ===		=== Relationship with Amanda ===

	Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as '''Amazda'''. Members of the community have alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.{{Citation needed}}		Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as '''Amazda'''. Members of the community have alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.{{Citation needed}}

The Debunker at 21:15, 2 October 2026

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	~~== Known Accounts ==~~
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisvanam2og <code>@chrisvanam2og</code>]
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@te.flatsmack <code>@te.flatsmack</code>]
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@tophervanam <code>@tophervanam</code>]

	{{Infobox		{{Infobox
	\|realName = Unknown		\|realName = Unknown

The Debunker at 21:15, 2 October 2026

2026-10-02T21:15:23Z

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	~~{{Infobox\|realName=Chris Vanam\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]\|religiflerf=Yes}}~~

	== Known Accounts ==		== Known Accounts ==

The Debunker at 21:14, 2 October 2026

2026-10-02T21:14:49Z

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Bagelsofpies at 02:22, 9 September 2026

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	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisvanam2og <code>@chrisvanam2og</code>]		* [https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisvanam2og <code>@chrisvanam2og</code>]
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@te.flatsmack <code>@te.flatsmack</code>]		* [https://www.tiktok.com/@te.flatsmack <code>@te.flatsmack</code>]
			* [https://www.tiktok.com/@tophervanam <code>@tophervanam</code>]
	[[Category:Religiflerfs]]		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
	[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]		[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]

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		{{Infobox\|realName=Chris Vanam\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]\|religiflerf=Yes}}

		== Known Accounts ==
		* [https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisvanam2og <code>@chrisvanam2og</code>]
		* [https://www.tiktok.com/@te.flatsmack <code>@te.flatsmack</code>]

		[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
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	~~{{Infobox\|realName=Chris Vanam\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]\|religiflerf=Yes}}~~

	~~== Known Accounts ==~~
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@chrisvanam2og <code>@chrisvanam2og</code>]
	* [https://www.tiktok.com/@te.flatsmack <code>@te.flatsmack</code>]

	~~[[Category:Religiflerfs]]~~
	~~[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]~~

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	The observed altitude of Polaris is approximately equal to the observer's northern latitude. As an observer travels south, Polaris appears lower because the observer's local horizontal reference rotates with Earth's curved surface. Polaris is not physically descending toward Earth.		The observed altitude of Polaris is approximately equal to the observer's northern latitude. As an observer travels south, Polaris appears lower because the observer's local horizontal reference rotates with Earth's curved surface. Polaris is not physically descending toward Earth.

	Chris has been shown correct right-triangle diagrams explaining this relationship but continues to rely on his original graph-paper drawing.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris has been shown correct right-triangle diagrams explaining this relationship but continues to rely on his original graph-paper drawing.

	=== “The math we are taught is wrong” ===		=== “The math we are taught is wrong” ===

	When established geometry contradicts his diagram, Chris claims that the mathematics taught in schools is wrong and that his preferred interpretation is more accurate.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		When established geometry contradicts his diagram, Chris claims that the mathematics taught in schools is wrong and that his preferred interpretation is more accurate.

	He has not presented a new mathematical system, demonstrated an error in conventional geometry, or supplied equations that predict observations more accurately than spherical geometry.		He has not presented a new mathematical system, demonstrated an error in conventional geometry, or supplied equations that predict observations more accurately than spherical geometry.
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	=== Trip funded by Dirt Cuz ===		=== Trip funded by Dirt Cuz ===

	[[Dirt Cuz]] reportedly paid to fly Chris to the island of Hawaii and covered the expenses associated with a series of long-distance observations.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		[[Dirt Cuz]] reportedly paid to fly Chris to the island of Hawaii and covered the expenses associated with a series of long-distance observations.

	The observations were conducted from the Big Island toward the islands of Lanai and Molokai using an expensive telescope or camera system.		The observations were conducted from the Big Island toward the islands of Lanai and Molokai using an expensive telescope or camera system.
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	=== Results consistent with the globe ===		=== Results consistent with the globe ===

	According to critics who reviewed the Hawaii observations, the visible and obstructed portions of the distant islands aligned with globe-Earth predictions.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		According to critics who reviewed the Hawaii observations, the visible and obstructed portions of the distant islands aligned with globe-Earth predictions.

	A proper analysis of this type of observation considers:		A proper analysis of this type of observation considers:

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	== Antisemitism and anti-Zionism ==		== Antisemitism and anti-Zionism ==

	Chris describes himself as anti-Zionist rather than antisemitic. However, he has reportedly posted material targeting Jewish people generally rather than limiting his criticism to the actions or policies of the Israeli government.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris describes himself as anti-Zionist rather than antisemitic. However, he has reportedly posted material targeting Jewish people generally rather than limiting his criticism to the actions or policies of the Israeli government.

	His TikTok content has allegedly included the '''Happy Merchant''', a widely recognized antisemitic caricature depicting Jewish people as greedy, manipulative, dishonest, and secretly controlling financial or political institutions.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		His TikTok content has allegedly included the '''Happy Merchant''', a widely recognized antisemitic caricature depicting Jewish people as greedy, manipulative, dishonest, and secretly controlling financial or political institutions.

	Criticizing Zionism or the policies of Israel is not automatically antisemitic. The distinction disappears when criticism is replaced with:		Criticizing Zionism or the policies of Israel is not automatically antisemitic. The distinction disappears when criticism is replaced with:
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	* conspiracy theories based on Jewish identity.		* conspiracy theories based on Jewish identity.

	Chris has reportedly posted multiple anti-Jewish TikToks and memes while using the anti-Zionist label to deny that the material is antisemitic.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris has reportedly posted multiple anti-Jewish TikToks and memes while using the anti-Zionist label to deny that the material is antisemitic.

	Direct links, archived recordings, screenshots, and dates should be added to this section when available.		Direct links, archived recordings, screenshots, and dates should be added to this section when available.
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	=== Misogynistic insults ===		=== Misogynistic insults ===

	Chris has reportedly referred to women, including TikTok users Tiffany and Anon, as “bitches.”~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris has reportedly referred to women, including TikTok users Tiffany, Dawn, and Anon, as “bitches.”

	He has also allegedly made body-shaming comments about women and used their appearance as a substitute for addressing their arguments.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		He has also allegedly made body-shaming comments about women and used their appearance as a substitute for addressing their arguments.

	These remarks are notable because Chris presents himself as someone influenced by biblical morality while using misogynistic insults during personal and scientific disagreements.		These remarks are notable because Chris presents himself as someone influenced by biblical morality while using misogynistic insults during personal and scientific disagreements.
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	=== Relationship with Flat Earth Woman ===		=== Relationship with Flat Earth Woman ===

	Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as (Redacted). ~~Dhe~~ has alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.		Chris previously dated a TikTok flat Earther known as (Redacted). She has alleged that Chris behaved in an emotionally abusive manner during the relationship.

	(redacted) subsequently left the TikTok flat-Earth community. Her departure has been attributed by members of that community to Chris's treatment of her		(redacted) subsequently left the TikTok flat-Earth community. Her departure has been attributed by members of that community to Chris's treatment of her

	Chris also ~~Pubblicly~~ Doxxed (Redacted) street address		Chris also Publicly Doxxed (Redacted) street address

	== Succa and the “ginger knight” poem ==		== Succa and the “ginger knight” poem ==
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	One of Chris's most notable personal incidents involved a married TikTok creator known as '''Succa'''.		One of Chris's most notable personal incidents involved a married TikTok creator known as '''Succa'''.

	Chris reportedly pursued Succa despite knowing that she was married.~~{{Citation needed}}~~ He wrote her a multi-page poem in which he referred to himself as a “ginger knight.”~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris reportedly pursued Succa despite knowing that she was married. He wrote her a multi-page poem in which he referred to himself as a “ginger knight.”

	The poem included the statement that Succa was a “MILF.” Chris reportedly claimed that the letters stood for “Mother I would forage for.”~~{{Citation needed}}~~		The poem included the statement that Succa was a “MILF.” Chris reportedly claimed that the letters stood for “Mother I would forage for.”

	Succa later shared the poem publicly, resulting in Chris's attempted romantic gesture becoming known throughout the TikTok debate community. The incident was also discussed during a community livestream used to air interpersonal grievances.		Succa later shared the poem publicly, resulting in Chris's attempted romantic gesture becoming known throughout the TikTok debate community. The incident was also discussed during a community livestream used to air interpersonal grievances.

	Succa publicly rejected Chris and eventually instructed him to leave her alone.~~{{Citation needed}}~~ She later separated herself from the flat-Earth community and continued creating unrelated TikTok content.		Succa publicly rejected Chris and eventually instructed him to leave her alone. She later separated herself from the flat-Earth community and continued creating unrelated TikTok content.

	The incident is remembered primarily because:		The incident is remembered primarily because:
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	=== Accusing others of “crashing out” ===		=== Accusing others of “crashing out” ===

	Chris frequently accuses opponents of “crashing out” or “frothing” when they challenge his claims.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		Chris frequently accuses opponents of “crashing out” or “frothing” when they challenge his claims.

	Critics have observed that Chris often becomes visibly angry while simultaneously accusing the calmer participant of losing emotional control.		Critics have observed that Chris often becomes visibly angry while simultaneously accusing the calmer participant of losing emotional control.
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	== Notable appearances and associations ==		== Notable appearances and associations ==

	* Chris has appeared in a formal flat-Earth debate hosted by '''Modern-Day Debate'''.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		* Chris has appeared in a formal flat-Earth debate hosted by '''Modern-Day Debate'''.
	* He has participated in numerous TikTok livestream debates.		* He has participated in numerous TikTok livestream debates.
	* He has appeared alongside [[Dirt Cuz]] during the Hawaii long-distance observations.		* He has appeared alongside [[Dirt Cuz]] during the Hawaii long-distance observations.
	* He has reportedly co-debated alongside [[Nathan Thompson]], who has used or been associated with names including Enoch, Shipfingers, and Duck Suit.~~{{Citation needed}}~~		* He has reportedly co-debated alongside [[Nathan Thompson]], who has used or been associated with names including Enoch, Shipfingers, and Duck Suit.
	* His “ginger knight” poem was discussed during a livestream hosted by [[StingRay]].		* His “ginger knight” poem was discussed during a livestream hosted by [[StingRay]].
	* He has interacted with or debated numerous TikTok globers but has not produced an original measurement demonstrating flat Earth.		* He has interacted with or debated numerous TikTok globers but has not produced an original measurement demonstrating flat Earth.