Corrupted flerf gospel
This page is a list of examples where religiflerfs treat their belief in a flat earth as a requirement for salvation, suggesting that all globers will go to hell.
Contradicting the Bible
When flerfs do this, they are going against the Bible and in fact bringing a curse on themselves:
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:6-9 (ESV, emphasis added)[1]
The gospel that Paul refers to makes no reference to cosmology or shape of earth:
But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[2] (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:8-9 (ESV)[3]
List of Examples
- On Dec 30, 2024 Dean Odle said:
If God said he set the world upon pillars and you say it's spinning and tilted and wobbling and flying, you're the fool and I'm going to promise you on Judgment Day you are going to be judged a fool, who setteth (?) not the counsel of God for your own belief system.[4]
- On Dec 30, 2024 King Nico tried to apply Matthew 24:24 to The Final Experiment, implying that "the elect" refers to flerfs.[5][6] In reality this term means those whom God favors,[7] i.e. believers in Christ.
- On Feb 22, 2025 on Modern-Day Debate, Nathan Thompson referred to his proselytizing of flat earth as “sharing the good news,”[8] a phrase that among Christians usually refers to the gospel.
- On Apr 11, 2025 Dave Weiss explicitly told someone globers are not Christians:
Interviewer: Just because you’re a Christian and believe in the Bible doesn’t mean you’re a flat-earther and vice versa.
Dave: Well no, the thing is: if you’re a Christian and you’re not a flat-earther, you’re a church-ian. You’re not a Christian. You’re just someone that follows the stuff in the church.[9]
- On Apr 16, 2025 in a debate with Will Duffy Sean Griffin repeatedly compared flat earth to the Resurrection of Christ:
We saw the absolute, contextual application of the firmament put onscreen; we saw the definitions of it put onscreen; we saw historical testimony put onscreen; and we saw Pastor Will Duffy deny all of it, saying it doesn’t exist because “It’s never been seen.” ‘Cause he doesn’t have the proof he needs to see it. With that logic, he doesn’t believe in the Resurrection of Christ or that believers in the audience will be resurrected to eternal life, which is the promise of the covenant that Christ is the firstfruits of.[10][11]
Moderator: (Reading a superchat from David English) Sean, what physical evidence would convince you that the globe model is true?
Sean: There’s always one of these questions. Not much, to be honest, because the Scriptures plainly teach a firm enclosed reality. So that’s like asking “How many times does a medical doctor have to tell me that there’s no resurrection before I disbelieve Christ’s resurrection?”[12]
Being a Christian that believes that we live on a spinning ball that's flying through space is a faith problem. … Righteousness is assigned based on faith in God’s word. … I’m not going to sugarcoat it: every single lukewarm openly tries to deny the semi-flat realm that God put us in; and consistently the people that are so clearly close to God just casually accept that, yes, we live in a semi-flat realm, because God said so. … Jesus is the word of God made flesh. Where does your faith stand if you think you’re going to refute what God said, with the word of a group of Scientology [sic] cult members…? You can’t pick and choose what you’re going to refute and what you’re going to believe in the Bible, because where does that end? Like, at what point does that come to the Resurrection, and then you throw the whole thing away? … Oftentimes people think that the only issue when it comes to believing is believing that Jesus died on the Cross and rose and defeated our sins, and like that that’s our salvation. While that is the most important one for sure, you need to believe every word that God says to be considered righteous. So if you only believe in the one part that your pastor told you is essential, which obviously it is, but you don’t believe really anything else…? That just doesn’t sit right with me.
- Around July 5, 2025 Kyle Adams posted a YouTube Short[15] interviewing a child about their involvement in promoting flat earth. At the end of the Short he said:
I think it’s really admirable to stand up for what you believe in. It’s kind of the whole thing of “I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,”[16] right? So no matter what people might say in the future, it’s right there in the Bible.
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References
- ↑ https://www.esv.org/Galatians+1:6/
- ↑ Quoted from Deuteronomy 30:14
- ↑ https://www.esv.org/Romans+10:8/
- ↑ https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxxac09IZ_wWcQgn3H-YGi5C7IYOBZblJm
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxA3fTzslhWc2XRlVgwL5RrIBr4CYlG4MS
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p_FpG_1h6zg
- ↑ https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/elect-election.html
- ↑ https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxG-ws_d74iwFxiPjX03_wjtpj2e-Vk87e
- ↑ https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxgEpbT5KrCv-scaGlcslHieB1NBKvnVdU
- ↑ This is a reference to 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.
- ↑ https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxfqyDqm-jFA3Yth0wqH8CJqBdqAN_6qb
- ↑ https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxbpO9f3vMZs-S-3ROZ-4oAkwqdzFTNtBr
- ↑ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjfwBwK3/
- ↑ She reposted the TikTok video on Facebook twice:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/168SN3FLCz/?mibextid=wwXIfr
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1E9Wvk64Ft/?mibextid=wwXIfr - ↑ https://youtube.com/shorts/oY3pinLlL-w
- ↑ Quoted from Romans 1:16