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Nixon Apollo 11 phone call

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	The '''Nixon Apollo 11 phone call''' was the conversation on the evening of 20 July 1969 between President Richard Nixon, in the Oval Office, and Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin at Tranquility Base. Houston time for the start of Nixon's first sentence is 21 July 1969, 03:48:30 UTC, ground elapsed time 110:16:30. He called the room the Oval Room. CapCom Bruce McCandless II in Houston put the phone onto the air-to-ground loop. Nixon's own voice went up. McCandless did not read the speech for him.		The '''Nixon Apollo 11 phone call''' was the conversation on the evening of 20 July 1969 between President Richard Nixon, in the Oval Office, and Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin at Tranquility Base. Houston time for the start of Nixon's first sentence is 21 July 1969, 03:48:30 UTC, ground elapsed time 110:16:30. He called the room the Oval Room. CapCom Bruce McCandless II in Houston put the phone onto the air-to-ground loop. Nixon's own voice went up. McCandless did not read the speech for him.
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	The crew members who lost their lives were:		The crew members who lost their lives were:
	* Commander {{wp\|Dick Scobe\|Francis Richard "Dick" Scobe}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/scobee_francis.pdf?emrc=da46ab?emrc=da46ab\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Commander {{wp\|Dick Scobe\|Francis Richard "Dick" Scobe}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/scobee_francis.pdf?emrc=da46ab?emrc=da46ab\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
	* Pilot {{wp\|Michael John Smith}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/smith_michael.pdf?emrc=a77341?emrc=a77341\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Pilot {{wp\|Michael J. Smith\|Michael John Smith}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/smith_michael.pdf?emrc=a77341?emrc=a77341\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
	* Mission Specialist {{wp\|Ellison Shoji Onizuka}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/onizuka_ellison.pdf?emrc=bb2d84?emrc=bb2d84\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Mission Specialist {{wp\|Ellison Shoji Onizuka}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/onizuka_ellison.pdf?emrc=bb2d84?emrc=bb2d84\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
	* Mission Specialist {{wp\|Judith Arlene Resnik}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/resnik_judith_with_photo_0.pdf?emrc=7cfcec?emrc=7cfcec\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Mission Specialist {{wp\|Judith Arlene Resnik}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/resnik_judith_with_photo_0.pdf?emrc=7cfcec?emrc=7cfcec\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
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	[[File:Brother earnest challenger1 are they.png\|thumb\|~~400px~~\|Example ~~Meme~~ making the false claim about the Challenger ~~Disaster~~]]		[[File:Brother earnest challenger1 are they.png\|thumb\|300px\|Example meme making the false claim about the ''Challenger'' disaster]]
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	{{see wp\|Space Shuttle Challenger disaster}}		{{see wp\|Space Shuttle Challenger disaster}}

	On January 28, 1986, {{wp\|Space Shuttle ''Challenger''}} broke apart 73 seconds after launching from {{wp\|Kennedy Space Center}}, killing all seven crew members on board.<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/challenger-sts-51l-accident/\|title=The Challenger STS-51L Accident\|website=NASA}}</ref>		On January 28, 1986, {{wp\|Space Shuttle Challenger\|Space ''Shuttle Challenger''}} broke apart 73 seconds after launching from {{wp\|Kennedy Space Center}}, killing all seven crew members on board.<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/challenger-sts-51l-accident/\|title=The Challenger STS-51L Accident\|website=NASA}}</ref>

	The crew members who lost their lives were		The crew members who lost their lives were:
	* Commander {{wp\|Dick Scobe\|Francis Richard "Dick" Scobe}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/scobee_francis.pdf?emrc=da46ab?emrc=da46ab\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Commander {{wp\|Dick Scobe\|Francis Richard "Dick" Scobe}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/scobee_francis.pdf?emrc=da46ab?emrc=da46ab\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
	* Pilot {{wp\|Michael John Smith}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/smith_michael.pdf?emrc=a77341?emrc=a77341\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>		* Pilot {{wp\|Michael John Smith}}<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/smith_michael.pdf?emrc=a77341?emrc=a77341\|title=Biographical Data\|website=NASA}}</ref>
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	This claim has been comprehensively debunked many times over. One example is [https://youtu.be/axfpL7sfJqs?si=rOcVI7_wSPO2rCDJ this video] from [[Astronomy Live]] hosted on [[Reds Rhetoric]]'s channel. In that video each claimed image is compared to the actual images of the astronauts using face comparison tools and the results clearly show that the claims are baseless.		This claim has been comprehensively debunked many times over. One example is [https://youtu.be/axfpL7sfJqs?si=rOcVI7_wSPO2rCDJ this video] from [[Astronomy Live]] hosted on [[Reds Rhetoric]]'s channel. In that video each claimed image is compared to the actual images of the astronauts using face comparison tools and the results clearly show that the claims are baseless.

	This is a particularly offensive claim to make since it denies the genuine loss of the Astronauts and it disrespects their sacrifice. [[MCToon]] will cancel your debate with him if you go here.		This is a particularly offensive claim to make since it denies the genuine loss of the Astronauts and it disrespects their sacrifice. [[MCToon]] will cancel your debate with him if you go here.

	===Judith Resnik===		===Judith Resnik===
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	Believers in the lie assert that law professor {{wp\|Judith Resnik (professor)\|Judith Resnik}} is the same person as the astronaut {{wp\|Judith Resnik}}		Believers in the lie assert that law professor {{wp\|Judith Resnik (professor)\|Judith Resnik}} is the same person as the astronaut {{wp\|Judith Resnik}}

	Aside from looking completely different, records of their personal history do not line up. In 1977, astronaut Judith Resnik was receiving her doctorate in electrical engineering from the {{wp\|University of Maryland}}, while Professor Resnik joined Yale Law School as a lecturer. Professor Resnik subsequently worked at the {{wp\|University of Southern California}} for 17 years, meanwhile astronaut Ms Resnik began training as an astronaut after being selected in 1978.<~~ref name~~="~~fullfact~~">~~{{cite web\|url=https~~:~~//fullfact~~.~~org/technology/challenger-astronauts-not-still-alive/~~\|~~title=No, the NASA astronauts killed~~ in ~~the 1986 Challenger disaster are not still alive\|website=fullfact~~.~~otg~~\|~~last=Lincoln\|first=Nadia\|date=16 September 2026}}~~</~~ref~~>		<gallery mode="packed" heights=200>
			File:Astronaut Judith Resnik.jpg\|Astronaut Judith Resnik in 1985
			File:Prof Judith Resnik Senate.jpg\|Professor Judith Resnik in 1987
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	~~At best,~~ for the ~~conspiracy~~ to ~~even kind of work~~, ~~NASA would~~'~~ve needed~~ to ~~thoroughly plan~~ the ~~fake death~~ of Judith Resnik ~~a decade~~ in ~~advance~~, ~~before~~ Resnik ~~was even selected~~ as an astronaut. Resnik (as ~~one individual) would also need to be~~ in ~~different places at~~ the ~~same time, while practicing subject matter expertise~~ in ~~two completely different and unrelated fields~~.		[[Astronomy Live]] conducted an analysis using facial recognition software. He compared photos of the two women from around the same time (to prevent anyone from using the "ageing" excuse for why they look different) and the software found the faces to be different. Additionally, the facial recognition software still recognised Professor Resnik's face in recent photos despite only being trained on younger photos closer to the accident.<ref>{{yt\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfpL7sfJqs\|title=
			Space Shuttle Challenger - Misidentified Heroes\|min=6\|sec=57}}</ref>

			Aside from looking completely different, records of their personal history do not line up. In 1977, astronaut Judith Resnik was receiving her doctorate in electrical engineering from the {{wp\|University of Maryland}}, while Professor Resnik joined {{wp\|Yale Law School}} as a lecturer. Professor Resnik subsequently worked at the {{wp\|University of Southern California}} for 17 years, meanwhile astronaut Ms Resnik began training as an astronaut after being selected in 1978.<ref name="fullfact">{{cite web\|url=https://fullfact.org/technology/challenger-astronauts-not-still-alive/\|title=No, the NASA astronauts killed in the 1986 Challenger disaster are not still alive\|website=fullfact.otg\|last=Lincoln\|first=Nadia\|date=16 September 2026}}</ref>

	==References==		==References==

	[[Category:Specific meme debunks]]		[[Category:Specific meme debunks]]

File:Prof Judith Resnik Senate.jpg

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	===Judith Resnik===		===Judith Resnik===
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			\|link1=[https://www.c-span.org/clip/senate-committee/user-clip-judith-resnik-in-1987-senate-hearing/5119454 Judith Resnik in 1987 Senate Hearing] • Professor Resnik speaking in the Senate during the {{wp\|Robert Bork Supreme Court nomination\|Robert Bork confirmation}} the year following the disaster—obviously a completely different person to the ''Challenger'' astronaut.
			\|link2={{yt\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfpL7sfJqs\|title=
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	Believers in the lie assert that law professor {{wp\|Judith Resnik (professor)\|Judith Resnik}} is the same person as the astronaut {{wp\|Judith Resnik}}		Believers in the lie assert that law professor {{wp\|Judith Resnik (professor)\|Judith Resnik}} is the same person as the astronaut {{wp\|Judith Resnik}}

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-This common lie raised by flerfs maintains that in 1986 the Space Shuttle Challenger did not explode and that the 7 astronauts that were on board were not killed and are still living.
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-[[File:Brother earnest challenger1 are they.png|thumb|400px|Example Meme making the false claim about the Challenger Disaster]]
+On January 28, 1986, {{wp|Space Shuttle ''Challenger''}} broke apart 73 seconds after launching from {{wp|Kennedy Space Center}}, killing all seven crew members on board.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.nasa.gov/challenger-sts-51l-accident/|title=The Challenger STS-51L Accident|website=NASA}}</ref>
 One example of a flerf pushing this is [[Earnest Pearson]].
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 This claim has been comprehensively debunked many times over. One example is [https://youtu.be/axfpL7sfJqs?si=rOcVI7_wSPO2rCDJ this video] from [[Astronomy Live]] hosted on [[Reds Rhetoric]]'s channel. In that video each claimed image is compared to the actual images of the astronauts using face comparison tools and the results clearly show that the claims are baseless.
 This is a particularly offensive claim to make since it denies the genuine loss of the Astronauts and it disrespects their sacrifice.  [[MCToon]] will cancel your debate with him if you go here.
 [[Category:Specific meme debunks]]

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{{series flerf lies}}
This common lie raised by flerfs maintains that in 1986 the Space Shuttle Challenger did not explode and that the 7 astronauts that were on board were not killed and are still living.
The claim is accompanied by a meme that purports to have found images of the dead astronauts living in plain sight in the USA.

[[File:Brother earnest challenger1 are they.png|thumb|400px|Example Meme making the false claim about the Challenger Disaster]]

One example of a flerf pushing this is [[Earnest Pearson]].

This claim has been comprehensively debunked many times over. One example is [https://youtu.be/axfpL7sfJqs?si=rOcVI7_wSPO2rCDJ this video] from [[Astronomy Live]] hosted on [[Reds Rhetoric]]'s channel. In that video each claimed image is compared to the actual images of the astronauts using face comparison tools and the results clearly show that the claims are baseless.

This is a particularly offensive claim to make since it denies the genuine loss of the Astronauts and it disrespects their sacrifice. [[MCToon]] will cancel your debate with him if you go here.

[[Category:Specific meme debunks]]

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	'''David <q>Flat Earth Dave</q> <q>Spectroscopy Needs To Be In a Container</q> <q>I'm a Scammer</q> Weiss''', also known by the acronym '''DITRH''' (Deep Inside The Rabbit Hole), often spelled '''DIRTH''', is a [[Wikipedia:Potato\|potato]] disguised as a flat earth grifting, lying fraud. He is a very prominent figure in the flat earth community and operates multiple YouTube channels.		'''David <q>Flat Earth Dave</q> <q>Spectroscopy Needs To Be In a Container</q> <q>I'm a Scammer</q> Weiss''', also known by the acronym '''DITRH''' (Deep Inside The Rabbit Hole), often spelled '''DIRTH''', is a [[Wikipedia:Potato\|potato]] disguised as a flat earth grifting, lying fraud. He is a very prominent figure in the flat earth community and operates multiple YouTube channels.

	In Japan, Dave is affectionately known as Phobos and Deimos, the potato shaped moons of Mars, and like Dave, they are also irregular. This is in Honor of the Japanese Space Agency JAXA, launching ~~a mission~~ to the Moons of Mars on October 20th 2026.		In Japan, Dave is affectionately known as Phobos and Deimos, the potato shaped moons of Mars, and like Dave, they are also irregular. This is in Honor of the Japanese Space Agency JAXA, launching the [https://www.mmx.jaxa.jp/en/ MMX Mission] to the Moons of Mars on October 20th 2026.

	He incessantly promotes his incredibly [[Wikipedia:Vulnerability (computer security)\|vulnerable]] app, "[[Dave Weiss#Leaky app\|Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac]]", which offers various features such as location sharing with other users. While Dave claims the app uses a flat earth model, the source code contains the [[Wikipedia:Haversine formula\|haversine formula]], which is used to compute distances on a globe. Dave's app has been known to leak sensitive user information, such as passwords and precise location on the globe.		He incessantly promotes his incredibly [[Wikipedia:Vulnerability (computer security)\|vulnerable]] app, "[[Dave Weiss#Leaky app\|Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac]]", which offers various features such as location sharing with other users. While Dave claims the app uses a flat earth model, the source code contains the [[Wikipedia:Haversine formula\|haversine formula]], which is used to compute distances on a globe. Dave's app has been known to leak sensitive user information, such as passwords and precise location on the globe.

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	These are heroic souls who have escaped from the cognitive black hole of flerfdom.		These are heroic souls who have escaped from the cognitive black hole of flerfdom.

	~~= See Also =~~
	* [[Escapees]]

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Space Audits

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	For more information or to view his content, visit the YouTube channel linked above.		For more information or to view his content, visit the YouTube channel linked above.

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	The '''Celestial Theodolite (CT)''' is a proposed method for testing Earth's curvature by recording the time that a star is ~~[[Wikipedia:Occultation~~\|occulted]] by a terrestrial object (typically a mountain peak) of known distance and known relative ~~[[Wikipedia:Elevation~~\|elevation]].<ref>https://publish.obsidian.md/spaceaudits/99_Old/Celestial-Theodolite/Cel-Theo/Cel-Theo-Concept</ref> The method was created by [[Mike Heffron]]. Flerfs ~~claim~~ that the CT ~~produces~~ data that is consistent with a flat Earth and not a globe. [[Space Audits~~\|Alan~~]] and [[Shane St. Pierre]] ~~are~~ notable proponents of CT.		The '''Celestial Theodolite (CT)''' was a proposed method for testing Earth's curvature by recording the time that a star is {{wp\|occulted}} by a terrestrial object (typically a mountain peak) of known distance and known relative {{wp\|elevation}}.<ref>https://publish.obsidian.md/spaceaudits/99_Old/Celestial-Theodolite/Cel-Theo/Cel-Theo-Concept</ref> The method was created by [[Mike Heffron]]. Flerfs claimed that the CT produced data that was consistent with a flat Earth and not a globe. [[Space Audits]] (Alan) and [[Shane St. Pierre]] were notable proponents of CT.

			After reviewing data by [[Astronomy Live]] as well as other lines of evidence, Alan has fully retracted his position on the CT and is now considered to be an [[ex-flerf]].<ref>{{yt\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8xTH4z7_Wo\|title=My Post-mortem of the "Celestial Theodolite"\|by=Astronomy Live}}</ref>

	== Method ==		== Method ==
	In the original method described by Heffron in [https://publish.obsidian.md/spaceaudits/99_Old/Celestial-Theodolite/Cel-Theo/Cel-Theo-Concept ''Beyond the Null Hypothesis''], an observer is to note the time a star is occulted by a distant mountain peak. The location and elevation of the observer and mountain peak is known.		In the original method described by Heffron in [https://publish.obsidian.md/spaceaudits/99_Old/Celestial-Theodolite/Cel-Theo/Cel-Theo-Concept ''Beyond the Null Hypothesis''], an observer is to note the time a star is occulted by a distant mountain peak. The location and elevation of the observer and mountain peak is known.

	At the time of occultation, the ~~[[Wikipedia:~~Horizontal coordinate system\|altitude angle]] of the star equals that of the mountain peak. ~~[[Wikipedia:~~Stellarium (software)\|Stellarium]] is used to find the angle to the star, which will be the same as the angle to the mountain peak at the moment the star is occulted. This angle is then compared against the globe and flat Earth predictions for what angle the peak should appear at from the observer's location.		At the time of occultation, the {{wp\|Horizontal coordinate system\|altitude angle}} of the star equals that of the mountain peak. {{wp\|Stellarium (software)\|Stellarium}} is used to find the angle to the star, which will be the same as the angle to the mountain peak at the moment the star is occulted. This angle is then compared against the globe and flat Earth predictions for what angle the peak should appear at from the observer's location.

	When flat Earthers use CT, they make several mistakes which skew the globe earth prediction (which is gone into more detail below). In reality, the globe's predictive capability for star occultations far exceeds flat Earth, especially as the distance and altitude of the peak increase.		When flat Earthers use CT, they make several mistakes which skew the globe earth prediction (which is gone into more detail below). In reality, the globe's predictive capability for star occultations far exceeds flat Earth, especially as the distance and altitude of the peak increase.
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	=== Finding the predicted altitude angle of the star ===		=== Finding the predicted altitude angle of the star ===
	The "predicted" ~~[[Wikipedia:~~Horizontal coordinate system\|altitude angle]] of the star at the time of occultation is computed in Stellarium.		The "predicted" {{wp\|Horizontal coordinate system\|altitude angle}} of the star at the time of occultation is computed in Stellarium.

	Flerf proponents of CT do not set the observer location in Stellarium to the actual observer location; they set it to the location of the mountain peak. They justify this by pointing out that on a flat Earth, the geometric altitude angle of the star at the observer location would be the same at the mountain peak at the time of occultation. While this is true in theory, there are two issues with this:		Flerf proponents of CT do not set the observer location in Stellarium to the actual observer location; they set it to the location of the mountain peak. They justify this by pointing out that on a flat Earth, the geometric altitude angle of the star at the observer location would be the same at the mountain peak at the time of occultation. While this is true in theory, there are two issues with this:
	* the geometric angle is different from the ~~[[Wikipedia:~~Apparent place\|apparent angle]] - flerfs are ignoring the effects of atmospheric refraction,		* the geometric angle is different from the {{wp\|Apparent place\|apparent angle}} - flerfs are ignoring the effects of atmospheric refraction,
	* Stellarium doesn't f*cking use flat Earth to predict star angles - the position of the star will obviously be different at the mountain peak.		* Stellarium doesn't f*cking use flat Earth to predict star angles - the position of the star will obviously be different at the mountain peak.

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	* He presented his method and data analysis in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21-tkyLA7I&t=1248s a debate] with [[Space Audits\|Alan]].		* He presented his method and data analysis in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21-tkyLA7I&t=1248s a debate] with [[Space Audits\|Alan]].
	* His data is available in a [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_61QpmeP_R5OE9leF3whrwvMKIYxeBKE Google Drive folder] and on [https://github.com/LinzeeOfLorien/CTRayTracer GitHub].		* His data is available in a [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_61QpmeP_R5OE9leF3whrwvMKIYxeBKE Google Drive folder] and on [https://github.com/LinzeeOfLorien/CTRayTracer GitHub].

			== Space Audit's retraction of the Celestial Theodolite ==

	== References ==		== References ==

	[[Category:1st Law of Flerf]]		[[Category:1st Law of Flerf]]

Space Audits

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	{{Infobox\|alias=~~'''~~Space Audits~~'''~~\|realName=~~'''~~Alan~~'''~~\|~~platform~~=~~[https://www.~~youtube~~.com/@~~space_audits ~~YouTube]}}~~		{{Infobox exflerf
			\|alias=Space Audits
	'''Alan''', known online as '''Space Audits''', is an independent researcher and content creator who critically examines scientific claims within mainstream cosmology and physics. His work aims to challenge established paradigms and explore the lost history of physics, particularly focusing on the concept of the Ether.		\|realName=Alan
			\|accounts={{account list
	~~= Known Accounts~~ =		\|youtube=space_audits
	* [https://www.youtube.com/@space_audits ~~Space Audits on YouTube]~~		\|x=space_audits
	* [https://rumble.com/c/SpaceAudits Space Audits on Rumble]		}}
	* [https://x.com/space_audits Space Audits on X]		* [https://x.com/space_audits Space Audits on X]
	* [https://markdownlinks.com/@spaceaudits Linktree]		* [https://markdownlinks.com/@spaceaudits Linktree]
			}}

			'''Alan''', known online as '''Space Audits''', is an American content creator and [[former flat earther]]. He examines scientific claims within mainstream cosmology and physics. His work aims to challenge established paradigms and explore the lost history of physics, particularly focusing on the concept of the Ether.

	= Notable ~~Appearances~~ =		== Notable appearances ==
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|-		\|-

Foil Crown Princezz

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	\|~~Real Name:~~ Elizabeth Barnes		\|realName= Elizabeth Barnes
	\|\| image= File: Foil.jpeg		\|\| image= File: Foil.jpeg
	\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]		\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]

Drama Squad

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	== Queen Bees ==		== Queen Bees ==
	* [[~~Spoiled~~ Foil]] (former)		* [[Foil Crown Princezz]] (former)
	* [[Lisalisa]] (current)		* [[Lisalisa]] (current)

	== Core members ==		== Core members ==
			* [[Magick]]
	* [[Chris Vanam]]		* [[Chris Vanam]]
	* [[Chewy]]		* [[Chewy]]
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	== Former members ==		== Former members ==
	* [[~~Katiedid]]~~		* [[Katie Didn't]]

	~~[[Category:Flat Earth communities]]~~
	~~[[Category:TikTok groups~~]]

Drama Squad

EnochRizzShapeCommander — Tue, 20 Oct 2026 22:04:43 GMT

Background and category list

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'''Drama Squad''' is a pejorative name given by [[Dip]] to the worst community of flat Earth panelists on TikTok. [[Kaleb Davis]] also uses this term after a falling out with [[Chris Vanam]] over antisemitism.

== Queen Bees ==
* [[Spoiled Foil]] (former)
* [[Lisalisa]] (current)

== Core members ==
* [[Chris Vanam]]
* [[Chewy]]
* [[MXRacer]]
* [[Gean Techman]]

== Queen Bee Simps ==
* [[Obbligato]]
* [[Kerminator]]
* [[The Chad]]
* [[Paladin]] (simps for Chad)
* [[Douglass Stefan]]
* [[Camaltow Hunter]]
* [[Dallas]]

== Former members ==
* [[Katiedid]]

[[Category:Flat Earth communities]]
[[Category:TikTok groups]]

User:RudolfAshkanasy

RudolfAshkanasy — Tue, 20 Oct 2026 21:46:16 GMT

User account RudolfAshkanasy was created

Foil Crown Princezz

EnochRizzShapeCommander — Tue, 20 Oct 2026 21:43:04 GMT

clarity

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	\|Real Name: Elizabeth Barnes		\|Real Name: Elizabeth Barnes
	\|image: File: Foil.jpeg		\|\| image= File: Foil.jpeg
	\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]		\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]
	\|alias = Foil CrowN Princezz <br> Foiled CrowN Princcezz <br> RoyEL Foil <br> Spoiled Foil		\|alias = Foil CrowN Princezz <br> Foiled CrowN Princcezz <br> RoyEL Foil <br> Spoiled Foil
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	Foil Crown Princezz is a TikTok flat Earther known for her unique scratchy voice and hostile personality. Foil expresses hatred and contempt for globers, flat Earth [[utopianism]], and ~~hunger~~ for a graphic violent conclusion to globe Earth.		Foil Crown Princezz is a TikTok flat Earther known for her unique scratchy voice and hostile personality. Foil expresses hatred and contempt for globers, believes in flat Earth [[utopianism]], and hungers for a graphic violent conclusion to globe Earth.

	Foil previously held the Queen Bee position of the [[Drama Squad]], but has since been demoted to "enforcer" for the group, due to her strategies only sabotaging and further isolating the group. She remains a daily contributor and host of flat Earth live panels on TikTok.		Foil previously held the Queen Bee position of the [[Drama Squad]], but has since been demoted to "enforcer" for the group, due to her strategies only sabotaging and further isolating the group. She remains a daily contributor and host of flat Earth live panels on TikTok.

Magick

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	==References==		==References==

	[[Category:~~Tiktok~~ flerfs]]		[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
	[[Category:American flerfs]]		[[Category:American flerfs]]

Foil Crown Princezz

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	\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]		\|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]
	\|alias = Foil CrowN Princezz <br> Foiled CrowN Princcezz <br> RoyEL Foil <br> Spoiled Foil		\|alias = Foil CrowN Princezz <br> Foiled CrowN Princcezz <br> RoyEL Foil <br> Spoiled Foil
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	Foil Crown Princezz is a TikTok flat ~~earther~~ known for her unique scratchy voice. She ~~has an intense dislike~~ of ~~globers and often taunts them~~. She is known for being on TikTok for extended periods of time, sometimes hosting her own Live and sometimes joining someone else's panel.		Foil Crown Princezz is a TikTok flat Earther known for her unique scratchy voice and hostile personality. Foil expresses hatred and contempt for globers, flat Earth [[utopianism]], and hunger for a graphic violent conclusion to globe Earth.

			Foil previously held the Queen Bee position of the [[Drama Squad]], but has since been demoted to "enforcer" for the group, due to her strategies only sabotaging and further isolating the group. She remains a daily contributor and host of flat Earth live panels on TikTok.

			She is known for being on TikTok for extended periods of time, sometimes hosting her own Live and sometimes joining someone else's panel.

	== Flat Earth Beliefs ==		== Flat Earth Beliefs ==
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	==Notable Incidents==		==Notable Incidents==
			{{Quote box
			\|quote = "[[Level Devil]] was there for me ... Why didn't you call me, Lisa? ... How many men have I pulled you away from?"
			\|author = [[Foil Crown Princezz]]
			\|source = Foil drank a bottle of Tequila and realized Lisa had become the new Queen Bee
			}}
	*On September 30th, Foil was on Johnqpublic's TikTok livestream. Whilst on the livestream, [[Dawn Chorus]] went up to ask about a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMLqzA0R4KY video] Foil had previously cited as flat earth proof, but unfortunately proved a globe. Foil had claimed that the green line in the video was center frame, "dead locked on the horizon", and that the video was taken 240k feet in the air. None of these claims are correct. Johnq's mods then began muting and shrinking foil, leading to her melting down, and her vowing to never return to John's live, stating "you ain't getting shit from me, you've got baller mods". The incident is linked [https://www.tiktok.com/@tiffanypnw/video/7691541183515987213?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 here]. Skip to 8:15 for the crashout.		*On September 30th, Foil was on Johnqpublic's TikTok livestream. Whilst on the livestream, [[Dawn Chorus]] went up to ask about a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMLqzA0R4KY video] Foil had previously cited as flat earth proof, but unfortunately proved a globe. Foil had claimed that the green line in the video was center frame, "dead locked on the horizon", and that the video was taken 240k feet in the air. None of these claims are correct. Johnq's mods then began muting and shrinking foil, leading to her melting down, and her vowing to never return to John's live, stating "you ain't getting shit from me, you've got baller mods". The incident is linked [https://www.tiktok.com/@tiffanypnw/video/7691541183515987213?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 here]. Skip to 8:15 for the crashout.

File:Foil.jpeg

EnochRizzShapeCommander — Tue, 20 Oct 2026 21:04:00 GMT

EnochRizzShapeCommander uploaded File:Foil.jpeg Foil's rotten attitude is on full display

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== Summary ==
Foil's rotten attitude is on full display

Vox Day

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	~~Rascist~~ alt-right misogynist loser, failed sci-writer, and failed video game designer. One of the few flerfs with enough notoriety to have ~~his own~~ [[Wikipedia:Vox Day\|Wikipedia article]].		Racist alt-right misogynist loser, failed sci-writer, and failed video game designer. One of the few flerfs with enough notoriety to have [[Wikipedia:Vox Day\|his own Wikipedia article]].

	= Confession of "serial rape" =		= Confession of "serial rape" =

Word salad

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	==== Moon phases ====		==== Moon phases ====
			{{link box
			\|title="Aetherically Displaced" song
			\|link1={{yt\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imwH1tdjqpw\|title=@Witsit‬ sings "Aetherically Displaced"}} • This classic word salad has been immortalized in this magnificent ditty
			}}

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
	'''Will Duffy:''' What is a full moon and what is a new moon on your model?		'''[[Will Duffy]]:''' What is a full moon and what is a new moon on your model?

	'''Austin Whitsitt:''' I think it's probably like a magnetic cycle, and just like the center of a ferrocell image of a magnet, it's just completely black. It's actually just pure inertia in the center in the ferrocell image of a magnet. I think that's what it is. It just actually goes into its inertial state and charges back up and once it becomes, like, aetherically displaced again, you start to see it charge up throughout its cycle, and then it goes back.		'''Austin Whitsitt:''' I think it's probably like a magnetic cycle, and just like the center of a ferrocell image of a magnet, it's just completely black. It's actually just pure inertia in the center in the ferrocell image of a magnet. I think that's what it is. It just actually goes into its inertial state and charges back up and once it becomes, like, aetherically displaced again, you start to see it charge up throughout its cycle, and then it goes back.
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	'''Plain English translation:''' ''When you look at a magnet through a [https://www.ferrocell.us/ Ferrocell lens], there is a dark area in the middle. The dark side of the Moon is also dark, and the Moon is magnetic magic or whatever, so the two must be the same thing. Also, I don't understand what inertia means. Also, random aether magic. Also, the Moon charges up like my phone battery.''		'''Plain English translation:''' ''When you look at a magnet through a [https://www.ferrocell.us/ Ferrocell lens], there is a dark area in the middle. The dark side of the Moon is also dark, and the Moon is magnetic magic or whatever, so the two must be the same thing. Also, I don't understand what inertia means. Also, random aether magic. Also, the Moon charges up like my phone battery.''

	~~This classic word salad has been immortalized in this magnificent ditty [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imwH1tdjqpw ‪Witsit‬ sings "Aetherically Displaced"]~~

	==References==		==References==

	[[Category:Glossary pages]]		[[Category:Glossary pages]]

Chris Vanam

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	'''Chris Vanam''' is a [[:Category:Canadian flerfs\|Canadian]] flat Earther who is primarily active on TikTok. Critics sometimes refer to him as '''Chris Van Dumb''', generally in response to his repeated difficulty with right-triangle geometry and his insistence that conventional mathematics is incorrect.		'''Chris Vanam''' is a [[:Category:Canadian flerfs\|Canadian]] flat Earther who is primarily active on TikTok. Critics sometimes refer to him as '''Chris Van Dumb''', generally in response to his repeated difficulty with right-triangle geometry and his insistence that conventional mathematics is incorrect.

	Chris is known for ~~displaying~~ a ~~graph~~-~~paper drawing in which~~ [[Polaris]] ~~appears~~ to ~~physically descend toward Earth's surface as an observer moves farther away~~. ~~Although he has been shown~~ the ~~correct right-triangle geometry, he continues to present his diagram~~ as ~~evidence against~~ the globe.		Chris is known for his [[flerf notebook]] entry, a hand-drawn tractrix representing sight lines to [[Polaris]] from a range of latitudes. He claims that these sight lines represent the receding of the star to the horizon due to perspective. However, the sight lines make a shape known as a pseudosphere or antisphere of dimensions which only affirm the conventional understanding of the globe earth.

	Chris has never publicly presented an original measurement or experiment demonstrating a flat Earth. His most significant opportunity to conduct a long-distance observation occurred when [[Dirt Cuz]] reportedly paid to fly him to Hawaii and supplied expensive observational equipment. According to critics, the resulting observations aligned with globe-Earth predictions, although Chris continues to describe them as evidence for flat Earth.		Chris has never publicly presented an original measurement or experiment demonstrating a flat Earth. His most significant opportunity to conduct a long-distance observation occurred when [[Dirt Cuz]] reportedly paid to fly him to Hawaii and supplied expensive observational equipment. According to critics, the resulting observations aligned with globe-Earth predictions, although Chris continues to describe them as evidence for flat Earth.