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Brian Sweet

2026-02-12T20:29:32Z

Globe-not-flat:

{{Infobox
| realName = Brian Sweet
| alias = Nick Cagee, Nicholas Cage
| location = USA
| platform = X
| papa = [[Ken Caudle]]
| antisemite = Yes
| religiflerf = Yes
| drinksUrine = Probably
}}

{| class="wikitable"
|+ Known Accounts
|-
! Platform !! Account !! Status
|-
| [https://x.com X] || [https://x.com/8getoveritman8 Brian "F'KN" Sweet] || Suspended (Account number 8)
|-

| [https://x.com X] || [https://x.com/did8hurtu I Have No Name] || Active (Account number 9)

|}

[[File:BrianSweet.jpg|thumb|Brian claims that pressure requires a container because of gas laws. When pressed to name a gas law, he finally named "thermal dynamics".|200px]]

Brian is a flat Earther very active on X. He has already been banned from X eight times due to his unpalatable views on various subjects. He is currently on his 9th account, the number 8 appears in his X account due to his love of the moustache man e.g. being the eighth letter of the alphabet.[https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88]

Brian hosts a space on X every Friday, which he begs globers to attend. Brian's only argument against the globers is the mute button. Brian is quite good at articulating derp, and often gets worked up when he hears globe arguments.

Brian's favorite flat Earth topics are "pressure requires containment" and the Michelson-Morley experiment, which he fondly calls MMX. On pressure, he fervently claims that one needs a container to have gas pressure. When asked why, he responds with "gas laws". Brian is, as of date, unable to name gas laws. Recently when cornered, he stated that "thermal dynamics" is a gas law (see picture). Brian loves to discuss the Michelson-Morley experiment and it often features on his Friday spaces.

Brian often uses a Nicholas Cage photo as his profile picture on X. Nothing much is known about his personal side, except that is reportedly approaching 60 years of age, very likely single and has been living with his mother for quite some time.

Brian Sweet

2026-02-12T20:29:04Z

Globe-not-flat:

{{Infobox
| realName = Brian Sweet
| alias = Nick Cagee, Nicholas Cage
| location = USA
| platform = X
| papa = [[Ken Caudle]]
| antisemite = Yes
| religiflerf = Yes
| drinksUrine = Probably
}}

{| class="wikitable"
|+ Known Accounts
|-
! Platform !! Account !! Status
|-
| [https://x.com X] || [https://x.com/8getoveritman8 Brian "F'KN" Sweet] || Suspended (Account number 8#
|-

| [https://x.com X] || [https://x.com/did8hurtu I Have No Name] || Active (Account number 9)

|}

[[File:BrianSweet.jpg|thumb|Brian claims that pressure requires a container because of gas laws. When pressed to name a gas law, he finally named "thermal dynamics".|200px]]

Brian is a flat Earther very active on X. He has already been banned from X eight times due to his unpalatable views on various subjects. He is currently on his 9th account, the number 8 appears in his X account due to his love of the moustache man e.g. being the eighth letter of the alphabet.[https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88]

Brian hosts a space on X every Friday, which he begs globers to attend. Brian's only argument against the globers is the mute button. Brian is quite good at articulating derp, and often gets worked up when he hears globe arguments.

Brian's favorite flat Earth topics are "pressure requires containment" and the Michelson-Morley experiment, which he fondly calls MMX. On pressure, he fervently claims that one needs a container to have gas pressure. When asked why, he responds with "gas laws". Brian is, as of date, unable to name gas laws. Recently when cornered, he stated that "thermal dynamics" is a gas law (see picture). Brian loves to discuss the Michelson-Morley experiment and it often features on his Friday spaces.

Brian often uses a Nicholas Cage photo as his profile picture on X. Nothing much is known about his personal side, except that is reportedly approaching 60 years of age, very likely single and has been living with his mother for quite some time.

Angels of Light

2026-02-07T10:40:30Z

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{{Infobox|image=File:Angels of Light.jpeg|realName=Robert|location=Melbourne, Australia|

|alias=Angels of Shite|
platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]|religiflerf=Yes|drinksUrine=Yes}}

== Known Accounts ==
* [https://www.tiktok.com/@angels_of_light <code>@angels_of_light</code>]

== Notable Appearances ==
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Notable Appearances
! Date !! Venue !! Participants !! Link !! Notes
|-
| Nov 1, 2024 || [[Modern-Day Debate|MDD]] || Angel & [[Nathan Thompson|Nathan]] v Peter Markley & PhD Tony || [https://www.youtube.com/live/cWy7YMDNqwA YouTube livestream] ||
|-
| Dec 28, 2024 || [[Modern-Day Debate|MDD]] || Angel v ADHD Projects || [https://www.youtube.com/live/FSokqUmgPhE YouTube livestream] || At 22:55, Angel tried to explain star trails using [[Plagiarism of Walter Bislin's model]].

Notably, Angel showed the original on Walter Bislin’s website instead of Shane’s plagiarized version, so Angel cannot have missed that he was telling a lie.

|-
| Dec 19, 2025 || [[WhatKast /w Jeran]] || WhatKast, Jeran, Bob the Science Guy || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82LQ8Egu2w&t=589s YouTube Livestream] || At 10:40, The Legendary Bob the Science Guy destroys Angel's go to claim relating to planes dipping their nose.

|-
| Jan 14, 2026 || [[Strange New World 547]] || Mark Sargent and DJ Curious || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEZB7hrmRsA YouTube Livestream] || At 43:21, Angel's is back at it again, only weeks after having Bob the Science Guy destroy him, as above.
|-
|30 Jan 2026 ||FTFE || FTFE || [https://www.youtube.com/live/MmkkCQSvUc8 YouTube Livestream] || appears from 1 hour 22 onwards, spent the entire debate forgetting what was said a few seconds previously and crying his eyes out, didn't provide any evidence to backup any of his claims
|}

== Other Info ==
* Hails from Melbourne Australia(which beggars belief in this day and age, and being a fellow connoisseur of BBQ Shrimp)
* Hangs out with [[Nathan Thompson]]
* Has been known to brag about "owning" an X-15 pilot whom he confronted in a grocery store parking lot. The story takes place in Australia, and Angels believed the pilot to be 40-50 years old. As of 2024, all but one of the X-15 pilots have been long-dead save for one, who would have been in his 90s. When confronted, Angels will implode and claim he was lied to by the person claiming to be an X-15 pilot, in which case he would have to be both wildly-gullible and egotistical to fall for such a ruse and blindly launch into a flat earth rant anyway. He still tells this lie as his own personal victory lap.
* Claims his best mate Paul got him into the Bible in 2021, after a hard year for him in 2020. After having read it and coming to the realization that it is divine, and not just words on a bit of paper, his friends told him the Bible is a flat earth geocentric book, and thus begun his downward spiral. (see 24m54s of Strange New World 547 video)

[[Category:Religiflerfs]]
[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]

Flatzoid

2025-04-17T12:34:11Z

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{{Infobox|image=File:Flatzoid.jpg|realName=Keith Reynolds|alias=Flatzoid, Fkatzoid, Fitzoid, Kifazoid, Failzoid, Creality, Ratzoid|location=South Africa|platform=[https://www.youtube.com/@CrealityPodcast YouTube]|papa=Nathan Oakley (prior to a [[Flerf-on-flerf|flerf-on-flerf]])|antisemite=Yes|religiflerf=Yes|drinksUrine=No}}

= Known Accounts =
* [https://www.youtube.com/@CrealityPodcast Creality Jesus Saves]
* [https://www.youtube.com/@KifazoidDesigns His Kingdom Is Flat]
* [https://www.tiktok.com/@flatzoids.perspective @flatzoids.perspective]

== YouTube Account History ==
* Flatzoid FE
* Flatzoids Perspective
* Creality

= Other Info =
* Keith Reynolds, known online as Flatzoid, is a South African flat Earth proponent.
* He has engaged in debates with fellow flat Earther Nathan Oakley, leading to a [[Flerf-on-flerf|flerf-on-flerf]] spat.
* He was associated with the [[“Flatzoid’s Kids” Rumor]], which he has helped start and perpetuate.
* While trying to deface this very web site, Flatzoid leaked his IP address: 41.193.212.184 <ref>[https://www.flerf.info/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=2338&oldid=2337 Fkatzoid's slanderous edit]</ref> <ref>[https://youtu.be/qSlnZD3ji0g?t=2067 34:27 Flatzoid vandalizing the website, <q>Mctoons Flerf Wiki Obsession</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
* He rebranded his YouTube channel to [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Creality Creality] on 5th April 2025
* He renamed the channel again to "Creality Jesus Saves" on 11th April 2025
* Winner of the 2025 Top left award <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/live/uiE2AhfdIkk Top Left 2025 Awards]</ref>

= Questions for Fkatzoid =
# Why do you always ask loaded questions?
# When did you stop beating your wife?

= Updated Definition =
In 2025 Webster's Dictionary updated the definition of "unemployable" to include a photo of Fkatzoid.

[[File:Unemployable_definition.png|thumb|left|300px]]

<hr style="clear:both;"/>

= Accusations =

== Will Duffy ==
In multiple videos Flatzoid claims that [[Will Duffy's sermon on deception|Will Duffy said that deception is good]].<ref>[https://youtu.be/VRF1L8Q1lzA?t=1639 27:19 Flatzoid claiming that Will said deception is good, <q>Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> That's not true. Will said that according to the bible, lying is not inherently evil.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1zS5qb8zng <q>Is It Always Wrong To Tell A Lie?</q> by Agape Kingdom Fellowship]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px12ldp9MOo <q>Is It A Sin To Lie If It Means You’re Saving A Life?</q> by Agape Kingdom Fellowship]</ref>

== Brenda ==
Flatzoid brought up a video claiming it shows Brenda, even though it's someone else, to defame not just her, but the entire globe community.<ref>[https://youtu.be/VRF1L8Q1lzA?t=4497 1:14:57 <q>Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

== Lisbeth ==
Flatzoid calls [[Lisbeth Acosta]] a "village bicycle".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSlfQuZDfVY <q>Fkatzoid, David Cain, PJ are Evil</q> by Conspiracy Toonz]</ref>

Flatzoid made further accusations about Lisbeth and the TFE crew in general.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUEbxW7FjK4 <q>Fkatzoid's Sick Fantasies about Lisbeth</q> by MCToon Live]</ref>

Flatzoid claimed that [[Jeran Campenalla]] had half naked photos of [[Lisbeth Acosta]] broadcast during a livestream: <q>We literally have seen a picture of Lisbeth half naked for Jeran.</q>

The photo seen in Jeran's live stream, was of his wife.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ec97tjelk 1:11:18 Jeran's wife on livestream censored <q>jeranism Friday UNPLUGGED Ep. 4 | Responding to Those Who Say the Antarctica Trip Was Fake | 1/31/25</q> by jeranism]</ref> Jeran censored the photo now. Flatzoid dishonest as always just asserted that it was Lisbeth.

Other defamatory quotes from Flatzoid:
* "That whole group is a perverted nonsense idiotic people and frankly they need to get a life."
* "We all know why um Lisbeth went with on the group. Have you ever heard of the um of the saying before village bicycle?"
** https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Village%20Bicycle

He doubles down on his accusation.<ref>[https://youtu.be/uNCAg7rfBDU?t=510 8:30 Flatzoid doubling down on his accusation about Lisbeth, <q>So Cultered talks about flat earth</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' You know McToon brought out a video guys, earlier and uh we called uh you know Village Bicycle. Um Sprouts of Doom don't come in here saying silly horrible things like I do, I just hear it from the channel, you got it. Anyway you see the difference between uh Lisbeth and my wife, Lisbeth sends nude pictures to uh Jeran, my wife doesn't do that to anybody. So get your facts straight mate. Oh that actually, we literally have, we literally have seen a picture of Lisbeth half naked for Jeran.
</blockquote>

=== Pretending to apologize ===
==== Wrong picture ====
He later apologized about showing another picture than the one he saw on Jeran's stream.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-0W5xaNQ8I&t=16802s 2:39:57 Flatzoid presenting a photo that wasn't one Jeran's live stream, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> No attempt of apologizing about his wrongful accusations.

[[File:Flatzoid-pathetic-apoology.png|500px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid-pathetic-apoology.png}}]]

==== Misrepresentation ====
Another pathetic attempt of an apology is his video <q>Flatzoid No More</q><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uO1g0y7hEg Flatzoid blaming the globe side for misrepresenting him, <q>Flatzoid No More</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>, where once again he doesn't retract his accusations, but instead blames the globe side for misrepresenting him.

==== Calling the rest of TFE participants perverts ====
He also tried to backtrack about his accusations about Lisbeth by calling everyone else involved in TFE the perverts.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=10265 2:51:05 Flatzoid accusing the other TFE participants, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> As if changing the target makes his accusations any better.

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' Lisbeth can come talk to me anytime, I'll show much respect to her because I don't mean any disrespect to her. I'm just simply pointing out the other perverted idiots.
</blockquote>

==== Misspeaking about it being a nude photo ====
The next backtracking he does is saying that he misspoke about it being a nude picture and he apologizes about claiming that Lisbeth sent the photo. Instead he is blaming Jeran for simply having a photo, which Flatzoid asserts to be Lisbeth.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=11593 3:13:13 Flatzoid accusing Jeran for having a lightly dressed photo of Lisbeth, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' I shouldn't have said nude. I did fix myself afterwards and said nearly nude. Though, well, yeah, so yeah. Again that was in reply to uh McToon coming in and uh you know slandering my wife and bringing my wife into the argument.

'''Roger Ledwell:''' the question is why would he get a nearly nude photo of Lisbeth in the first place?

'''Flatzoid:''' Yes that one. Why, now again, I, I shouldn't have said Lisbeth sent it to her so that was wrong, cuz he could have got it off her profiles, you know what I mean?

'''Roger Ledwell:''' that's all I said

'''Flatzoid:''' But that was a misspeak. Sorry about that Lisbeth I didn't mean to say you sent it. It was just, I was caught off guard with McToon coming in and bringing my wife into it so that I didn't mean to say sending but yeah, it's just, I should have said it's weird that you would have pictures like that. You know what I mean?
</blockquote>

Note that Fkatzoid was claiming that MCToon was in the video livestream chat. This is a lie because Fkatzoid loves censorship so much that he has MCToon blocked on his channel so it's impossible.

==== He claims that he is not attacking Lisbeth, by attacking others ====
Flatzoid also claims that he didn't attack Lisbeth, because he didn't make live streams or videos about her, like he did with MCToon, Dave McKeegan and Will Duffy.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=13112 3:38:32 Flatzoid admitting he attacked MCToon, Will Duffy and Dave McKegan, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> Admitting to attack someone else to avoid admitting to attack Lisbeth, doesn't help his case.

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' I mean if I really wanted to attack her, would I have not made a video by now or a live stream about it? Like I've been doing with McToon and McKeegan and Duffy. Would make live streams about it correct? Or videos?
</blockquote>

== Jeran ==
=== Revenge porn ===
Flatzoid received some [[Wikipedia:Revenge porn|revenge porn]] of [[Jeran Campanella]]. On April 1, 2025 Flatzoid boasted about this on his livestream and gave a highly distorted description that suggested there was a child victim involved:<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/live/Oc6T8J4kzwo?t=3775s 1:02:54 <q>Zach Star CLAPS BACK at Flat Earth Comments</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Flatzoid admission about Jeran revenge porn.jpg|thumb|right|Flatzoid admitting the video showed no crime]]

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' Every time the guy’s name comes up I just think of those videos sent to me.
'''[[Sovereign Soul Unchained Mind|SSUM]]:''' I haven’t seen ’em.
'''Flatzoid:''' You don’t want to. But let me put into context one of the videos. It’s a child’s torso, and he’s … [Flatzoid strikes his desk repeatedly].
'''SSUM:''' Wow.
'''[[Roger Ledwell]]:''' Nice.
</blockquote>

Two days later, when [[User:PeterMarkley|Peter Markley]] was challenging him on this, Flatzoid admitted the object in the video was actually some type of “doll” and that no crime was depicted.

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=== Claiming Jeran is a pervert ===
In his fake apology to Lisbeth while Flatzoid was watching Dave McKeegan's stream, he shifted the blame to Jeran. <ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=11664 3:14:24 Flatzoid calling Jeran a pervert, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid''': Um, oh, and I want to point out yes, uh everybody in the flat earth community knows just what Jeran sends to females and expects them to send to him.

'''PJ:''' He's disgusting

'''Flatzoid:''' So I'm not going to say anything further than that. Again not slander, not saying anything. If you don't believe me you can ask any other flatearther about the stuff. I don't want to say anything. I just say "Pray for the guy he's very perverted." That's it.
</blockquote>

== MCToon ==
Flatzoid made a baseless claim that Toon has children tied to a pole in his basement.<ref>[https://youtu.be/uNCAg7rfBDU?t=5729 1:35:39 Flatzoid accusing Toon, <q>So Cultured talks about flat earth</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' I've got a statement from McToon who just came in, which I just blocked, um maybe you want to let go of the children tied to the pole in your basement.
</blockquote>

He also claims that MCToon is perverted, because he is friends with Jeran. <ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=9953 2:45:53 Flatzoid claiming that MCToon is perverted, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' McToon you can also come in and talk because I'm more than happy to tell you how perverted you are because everybody knows how perverted you are. You buddy buddy with Jeran.
</blockquote>

== Flatearthers who left ==
According to Flatzoid many of the people who reached out to people like Dave McKeegan, to say why they left flat earth, are just fabricated accounts.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=11119 3:05:19 Flatzoid claiming that flatearthers who quit are fake, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' I want to point out so many of these what he's claiming are fabricated fake accounts.
</blockquote>

= Statements =
== Union Glacier Location ==
<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' I do think that they're being duped to think they're at Antarctica. I don't think Union Glacier is really at Antarctica. I think that's at a different location and it's placed as Antarctica.<ref>[https://youtu.be/3Z9NRoFpDco?t=10696 2:58:16, <q>TFE Is not faking anything?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
</blockquote>

== Where is the South Pole? ==
<blockquote>
'''Will Duffy:''' Where is the South Pole?

'''Flatzoid:''' It's a ceremonial Place.

'''Will Duffy:''' And where is it?

'''Flatzoid:''' At the ceremonial South Pole place, where they put the pole up.
<ref name="flatzoid south pole">[https://youtu.be/mB5cNbQj3fc?t=315 5:15, <q>Deceptive Duffy show up</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
</blockquote>

== Claiming that people defending themselves when accused of lying means that they are guilty ==
<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' See, that's the one thing that I've realized, especially with this um topic. If you call out deception, which I do a lot, the fact that they come and they try and, uh how can I say, defend it towards me shows that they're guilty because one thing I've realized through years is, if someone is not feeling guilty about things they just ah leave it and they go on, or they make one video just you know um saying, okay I respond to it and they go on with their lives. These guys make it them life's mission to try and discredit me to try and defend saying they're not deceptive.
<ref>[https://youtu.be/VRF1L8Q1lzA?t=2756 45:56, <q>Why does Flat Earth bother YOU so much?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
</blockquote>
That's rich coming from someone who made it his mission to discredit Will Duffy and the other TFE participants. He has over 20 videos lying about TFE or the TFE participants.

==Flatzoid and his Jerkell discussing the South Pole ==
<blockquote>
'''David Sanch:''' So, you know they have the South Pole station and they claim that that place was found because someone came from like the north of Antarctica and went South following the Stars until they got to that place, and then someone from the south of Antarctica went like, also straight to that place, but like I don't know about the exact Direction, but they're saying that they came from two opposite sides of Antarctica. They followed the sky and they met in one geographic location where all the stars were circling around one point in the sky.

'''Flatzoid:''' Now what happened is the one person went and he placed a tent there then later on another person came and found the tent there and they declared it as the geographic South Pole.
</blockquote>
<ref>[https://youtu.be/MeJmAv-Uv_Q?t=5673 1:34:33 Flatzoid and his Jerkell talking about the South Pole, <q>Let's have a talk!</q> (March 16) by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

For a proper explanation about how the South Pole was discovered Will Duffy made a great video explaining it.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FblzXj3q4s <q>THE FINAL EXPERIMENTS - The South Pole</q> by The Final Experiment]</ref>

= Lies =
Tiny Captain has a nice compilation of Flatzoid's lies.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5zNY0q36ck <q>The Truth Behind Fkatzoids (‪@FlatzoidsPerspective‬ ) Lies</q> by Tiny Captain]</ref>

== General Lies ==

=== 11 Frames ===
Flatzoid's most famous lie is him removing 11 frames in a video of a capsule splashdown. Reds Rhetoric made a video about that.
<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-6MQ0y3B4 <q>Flat Earth Dishonesty - Spurs & Flatzoid FE</q> by Reds Rhetoric]</ref> Critical Think has a shorter summary.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7YnVqFLj0Y <q>The 11 (or 13) frames of shame</q> by Critical Think]</ref>

=== Becoming Fkatzoid ===
During MCToon's livestream <q>Flattys are Eating Their Own</q> <ref>[https://youtu.be/11a-wzdwSqU<q>Flattys are Eating Their Own</q> by MCToon Live]</ref>, Toon checked if Flatzoid had his email address on his channel. Flatzoid didn't and to hide it he quickly added his email address<ref name="flatmail">[https://youtu.be/11a-wzdwSqU?t=17652 4:54:12 Adding the email, <q>Flattys are Eating Their Own</q> by MCToon Live]</ref>, and was caught mistyping it as fkatzoid@gmail.com.<ref>[https://youtu.be/11a-wzdwSqU?t=26821 7:27:01 Birth of Fkatzoid, <q>Flattys are Eating Their Own</q> by MCToon Live]</ref> He tried to cover it up by claiming that Toon changed the HTML, even though Toon couldn't have done that as he shared his screen at the time, showing everyone how he refreshed the page. <ref name="flatmail" /> Furthermore Toon would have had to add all the stuff that were removed after Flatzoid updated his about page.

=== Bible says Earth is flat ===
Flatzoid had a bet with Shawn Hawkins about the bible saying that Earth is flat. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtprsqnaEk <q>Shawn Owes me $100</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

For that Flatzoid brought up 2 Samuel 11:11 of two very obscure bibles.
* The Matthew's Bible: <q>And Vrias sayd vnto Dauid: the arck and Israel & Iuda dwell in pauilions: & my Lord Ioab and the seruauntes of my Lorde lye in tentes vpon the flat earthe: and shulde I then go into myne house, to eate and to dryncke & to lye wyth my wyfe? By thy lyfe and as sure as thy soule lyueth, I wyll not do that thyng.</q><ref>[https://textusreceptusbibles.com/Matthews/10/11 <q>Matthew's Bible 2 Samuel 11</q> by textusreceptusbibles ]</ref>
* The Great Bible: <q>Urias answered Dauid. The arcke & Israel and Iuda dwell in pauylyons: and my Lorde Ioab and the seruauntes of my Lorde lye vpon the flatt erthe: and shall I then go into myne house, to eate, and to dryncke, and lye wyth my wyfe? By thy lyfe and by the lyfe of thy soule, I wyll not do thys thynge.</q><ref>[https://textusreceptusbibles.com/Great/10/11 <q>Great Bible 2 Samuel 11</q> by textusreceptusbibles]</ref>

When looking through other translation it becomes obvious that that passage talks about an open area.<ref>[https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Samuel%2011%3A11 <q>2 Samuel 11 in multiple translations</q> by Biblegateway]</ref>

=== NASA changing curriculum ===
One of Flatzoid's Jerkell claims that the study <q>A CROSS-CULTURAL INVESTIGATION OF CHILDREN'S CONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE EARTH, THE SUN AND THE MOON: GREEK AND AMERICAN DATA</q> <ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED318627.pdf <q>A CROSS-CULTURAL INVESTIGATION OF CHILDREN'S CONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE EARTH, THE SUN AND THE MOON: GREEK AND AMERICAN DATA</q>]</ref> was given a grant by NASA.

The claim is that the National Science Foundation (NSF) is an arm of NASA<ref>[https://youtu.be/zavA5T-aGfI?t=1749 29:09 NSF is an arm of NASA, <q>You can’t handle the truth!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>, which Flatzoid simply accepted without checking. By simply looking up that foundation what do we find?

<blockquote>The U.S. National Science Foundation is an independent federal agency that supports science and engineering in all 50 states and U.S. territories.
NSF was established in 1950 by Congress to:
* Promote the progress of science.
* Advance the national health, prosperity and welfare.
* Secure the national defense.

We fulfill our mission chiefly by making grants. Our investments account for about 25% of federal support to America's colleges and universities for basic research: research driven by curiosity and discovery. We also support solutions-oriented research with the potential to produce advancements for the American people.</blockquote>
<ref>[https://www.nsf.gov/about <q>National Science Foundation</q>]</ref>

Flatzoid and his Jerkell blame NASA for something they have nothing to do with.

== Lying about the globe ==
=== Sunrise in Uvongo ===
Flatzoid went to Uvongo on a holiday and while there he measured the direction of the sunrise. His phone showed 122°. When comparing it with Google Earth, he claims that the right line is 122°. <ref>[https://youtu.be/extI4zjeg3g?t=270 6:36, <q>Sunrise Observation kills the globe</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Uvongo-sunrise-flatzoid.png|500px|link={{filepath:File:Uvongo-sunrise-flatzoid.png}}]]

Google Earth actually shows that the right line is 118°.

[[File:Uvongo-sunrise-118.png|500px|link={{filepath:File:Uvongo-sunrise-flatzoid.png}}]]

=== Celestial Navigation ===
FTFE asked Flatzoid to show one citation that states that a circle of equal altitude is flat and level. The citation provided by Flatzoid appears at first glance to support that statement.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAn9LOu5oKY <q>So FTFE will you keep your word?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Altitude-intercept-method-flat.png|400px|link={{filepath:Altitude-intercept-method-flat.png}}]]

FTFE showed that the same document shows that the previous diagram is just a simplification. Directly after it shows the circle on the curved surface of the globe.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAn9LOu5oKY 7:24, <q>Flatzoid/Failzoid - A Failure</q> by Craig McNeill - FTFE]</ref> <ref>[https://documen.site/download/altitude-intercept-method_pdf# <q>Altitude-Intercept Method</q>]</ref>

[[File:Altitude-intercept-method-curve.png|400px|link={{filepath:Altitude-intercept-method-curve.png}}]]

== TFE and Antarctica ==
=== Sun going behind Mount Rossman ===
Flatzoid used a clip of Dave McKeegan saying that the sun was going behind Mount Rossman.<ref name="flat tfe lie compilation">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X5sWcXU8QE <q>Unreal TFE</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> In this context it simply means that the sun is further away than the mountain in the same direction as the mountain. It doesn't mean that the Mountain blocked the sun. Jeran shortly after in the same video was in Union Glacier Camp, where the sun can actually be blocked by the mountain at the end of the camp closest to the mountain.

=== Toon and Duffy aging ===
In the same video<ref name="flat tfe lie compilation"/> as in the previous lie, Flatzoid also claims that Toon and Will aged a lot, by comparing a video taken by a phone by one of the organisers of the Antarctica marathon, with the videos taken in Will's and Toon's home respectively. Something flerfs haven't done is to compare the videos Toon and Duffy took earlier in the year with the footage after TFE when the conditions are the same. It's like they know it won't work if they do that.

=== Union Glacier Camp not visible ===
Another lie is the claim that Toon and Duffy filmed the site off season, when Union Glacier Camp wasn't set up, because the camp isn't visible in the footage.<ref name="flat tfe lie compilation"/> In reality the camp is simply lower than halfway-point, where TFE was, as shown by the drone footage.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1yKGnMzVoE <q>The Final Experiment Mile High Drone with Ascent and Descent by Will Duffy Telemetry by WheresWally</q> by WheresWally]</ref>

[[File:Union-glacier-drone.png|600px|link={{filepath:Union-glacier-drone.png}}]]

=== Marathon runner breath ===
In a discussion with Witsit, Flatzoid claimed at the beginning that the breath of the marathon runners was always visible.

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' We showed a video of the marathon runners there a day earlier and their breath was showing the whole time and they were also at Union Glacier. So why was it possible that their breath is always showing and your guys wasn't?<ref>[https://youtu.be/HP8h4LTenbs?t=264 4:24 Flatzoid saying they always show their breath, <q>Called out by Witsit!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
</blockquote>

When Witsit calls him out on that, he claims that he never said that we can always see the breath of the marathon runners.
<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' Now you are lying because you didn't watch any of my content so when did I say we always see their breath? [...] I said most of the time.<ref>[https://youtu.be/HP8h4LTenbs?t=942 15:42 Witsit calling Flatzoid out, <q>Called out by Witsit!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
</blockquote>

=== Flatzoid claims TFE was rendered in Unreal Engine ===
During a debate between Flatzoid and Dave McKeegan, Flatzoid claimed that he thinks that TFE could have been done in Unreal Engine.

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' My uh idea is how they could have faked it was Duffy or someone could have gone earlier and and got high def HDRs uh surround environments of Antarctica, because when you look at the in the footage we don't see Union Glacier anywhere around there and they're only about 1.5 km away you should see Union Glacier camp we don't see Union Glacier camp at Mount Rossman. So that shows that they were either probably there when it was off-season when there were no tourists available, they were able to get their uh environment done, HDR environment done, and they could make recreate it in Unreal Engine 5 if they wanted to and therefore when they did all really go down in December they were able to just fake the sky and have the rest as a real environment.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xhvYvFWps&t=11820s 7:18 Flatzoid claiming TFE was faked in Unreal Engine, <q>A Flat Earth "Debate" - Dave McKeegan VS Flatzoid - Was The Sun In Antarctica Fake?</q> by Craig McNeill - FTFE]</ref>
</blockquote>

Dave McKeegan made a great video about how it's not possible to use Unreal Engine to fake TFE.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7h1gwmNzU <q>We faked the 24hr sun with Unreal Engine .... Apparently</q> by Dave McKeegan]</ref>

As for the camp not being visible, [[Flatzoid#Union_Glacier_Camp_not_visible|that was already explained before]].

=== Camera glitching means that the video is fake? ===
In the discussion with Dave McKeegan, Dave showed the footage on his insta 360. Unfortunately the camera glitched and showed a green frame. Flatzoid, dishonest as usual, took that as evidence of fakery. <ref>[https://youtu.be/cQnm1mhMP6g?t=1066 17:46 Camera glitch, <q>Blerfers Always Rinse and Repeat?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Dave camera glitch.png|400px|link={{filepath:"Dave camera glitch".png}}]]

=== Plane flight ceiling ===
According to Flatzoid the flight ceiling of planes flying over Antarctica is 13,000 feet.<ref>[https://youtu.be/uwUNP55gb2Y?t=2211 36:51 Flight ceiling, <q>Can You REALLY Trust The Biblical Flat Earth Model?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' Why they have a ceiling of 13,000 ft when flying in Antarctica?
</blockquote>

Of course that's a lie. The planes fly at over 35,000 ft. Apparently Flatzoid already looked that up himself.

[[File:Antarctica altitude.png|400px|link={{filepath:Antarctica_altitude.png}}]]



= Showcasing His Stupidity =

== Math ==
=== Flatzoid doesn't understand variables in geometry ===
Flatzoid thinks he understands geometry better than anyone else. But in this post he demonstrates that he has no idea. The correct answer is arctan(opposite/adjacent). He wrote 45° which would be wrong even for this example as the triangle is very clearly not a 45-45-90 triangle. 
[[File:Flatzoid_solving_a_triangle.jpg|200px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid_solving_a_triangle.jpg}}]]

=== Angle is a hypotenuse? ===
Flatzoid thinks that an angle is a hypotenuse. The clip is in one of FTFE's videos, as I couldn't find the original video.

[[File:Flatzoid-hypotenuse.png|400px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid-hypotenuse.png}}]]

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' the 45 degree that you at the sun [...] would that be a hypotenuse of a right angle triangle?
</blockquote> <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0qUkFhG-s <q>A Flat Earth "Debate" - FTFE VS Matthew Hakim - Was The Final Experiment A Hoax?</q> by Craig McNeill - FTFE]</ref>

[[File:Flatzoid-hypotenuse-discord.png|400px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid-hypotenuse-discord.png}}]]

Here is an example of what the hypotenuse actually is. The hypotenuse is side a, the side opposite of the right angle at point A. As you can see a hypotenuse does not represent a 45° angle, as none of the angles in the following example even is 45°. Even with 45° angles, a hypotenuse doesn't represent an angle.

[[File:Right-angle-triangle.png|400px|link={{filepath:Right-angle-triangle.png}}]]

== Physics ==
=== Sunglare needs an atmosphere? ===
Flatzoid claimed that glare needs an atmosphere while he was looking at photos taken by Blue Ghost from the moon. <ref>[https://youtu.be/qSlnZD3ji0g?t=2728 45:28 Looking at Blue Ghost photos, <q>Mctoons Flerf Wiki Obsession</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

=== Flatzoid doesn't understand perspective and reference frames ===
Dave McKeegan explained in a video how Flatzoid doesn't understand perspective parallax etc, by using a video made by UThink. Flatzoid reviews that video and demonstrates once again he doesn't understand it. <ref>[https://youtu.be/tQAqABZ6i0U?t=4399 1:13:19 <q>TFE Fakery and some U2 Spy Plane action</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

Flatzoid thinks that if Earth moves, the roundabout in the animation, that the camera must move relative to the ground to keep the table in view.

=== Magnetism vs Gravity ===
In a discussion between Flatzoid and FTFE, they were comparing gravity and magnetism. Flatzoid is fine with changing the magnetic field by adding charge, but at the same time he doesn't accept changing mass to change the force of gravity.<ref>[https://youtu.be/IZwSCTKqdkE?t=937 15:37 Magnetism vs Gravity, <q>A Flat Earth "Debate" - FTFE VS Flatzoid - Gravity & The 2nd Law Of Thermodynamics</q> by Craig McNeill - FTFE]</ref>

== Globe ==
=== Flatzoid confuses East and West ===
When Critical Think had a discussion with a flerf friend, his friend stated that the sun is West of his position in Brisbane Australia, while it was South of Union Glacier.<ref>[https://youtu.be/6-Ij1lr5OKs?t=66 1:06 <q>Conversations with a flattie about the Sun.</q> by Critical Think]</ref> Flatzoid tried debunking it by confusing East and West. He took down his videos after [[Rachie 00000]] called him out.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPekiXVyKyw <q>Flatzoid Can't East And West</q> by Rachie 00000]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nGwR__Ww0w <q>Flat Earther Fails At Navigation Without Leaving The House</q> by Rachie 00000]</ref>

[[File:Flatzoid-east-west.png|400px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid-east-west.png}}]]

=== Flatzoid also doesn't understand South ===
In another live stream, Flatzoid demonstrates that he also doesn't understand how to travel South on the globe.<ref>[https://youtu.be/5A2rnhKYezI?t=9042 2:30:42 <q>Tomorrow's World Viewpoint thought nobody would notice the lie?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

=== Flatzoid and the South pole ===
Flatzoid thinks that the existence of the South pole in reality is a straw-man, because the flat earth doesn't have a South pole. He also doesn't understand that 90° is not a single location on a flat earth. It's only a single location on the globe.
<ref>[https://youtu.be/tK81Jp_XTJk?t=3106 51:46 <q>The Pole is Duffy's new strawman</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> Will Duffy asked him to point out where 90° South is on a map, which of course Flatzoid couldn't answer and just kept deflecting.<ref name="flatzoid south pole"/>

In case Flatzoid reads the wiki. The sign of Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station shows Antarctica as the continent it is on the globe.

[[File:Amundsen-scott-south-pole-base.jpg|400px|link={{filepath:Amundsen-scott-south-pole-base.jpg}}]]

In another stream, Flatzoid's panel talks about there being seven South Poles and Flatzoid just accepts that as truth.<ref>[https://youtu.be/cQnm1mhMP6g?t=277 4:37 The seven poles, <q>Blerfers Always Rinse and Repeat?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

=== Sun is North of Union Glacier? ===
While discussing The Final Experiment's observation of the Sun in Antarctica, Flatzoid referred to the Time and Date's map on their website for December 14, 2024, and said that since the Sun's icon was placed north of Antarctica on the map at local midnight, the participants of TFE were lying because they saw the Sun towards their South, as it should have been North of them.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/live/tp4cssxfJd8?si=r5U1zvOnlQU-Bmj4&t=6296 1:44:56 <q>It's a Psyop 5k special</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

The first mistake he made is that he use midnight UTC, which is not local midnight. At that time the sun is West of the TFE camp.

[[File:Timeanddate-midnight-utc.png|600px|link={{filepath:Timeanddate-midnight-utc.png}}]]

Local Midnight is around 6:00 UTC.

[[File:Timeanddate-local-midnight.png|600px|link={{filepath:Timeanddate-local-midnight.png}}]]

The second mistake is that he treated a [[Wikipedia:Cylindrical projection|cylindrical map projection]] as representative of globe geometry (just like flerfs do when claiming [[Flight paths|flight paths don’t work on a globe]]). This is so elementary as to be plainly dishonest.

On the globe the actual position of the sun is indeed South of Union Glacier at local midnight in the direction of Mount Rossman. The worst part is that Flatzoid actually knows that. He showed that in a [[Flatzoid#Flatzoid_confuses_East_and_West|previous stream]] where he confused East and West using Google Earth.

[[File:Google-Earth-TFE-Local-midnight.png|600px|link={{filepath:Google-Earth-TFE-Local-midnight.png}}]]

In case Flatzoid complains about the compass in the top right corner showing North towards the left, that's because my position above the globe is slightly left of the South Pole. It's in the direction of South from the position of the TFE camp.

=== South Celestial Pole ===
Flatzoid doesn't understand how you can use the stars around a celestial pole to navigate.

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' If you've ever used navigation with the Stars and stuff, which I have in the bush, yet you can't tell you're going exactly straight by following a star because the stars are following a circular path. You're following that that um that star you are following its circular path. So you think you're going straight but you're actually taking a circular path.

'''David Sanch:''' All right but we have latitude though. Like we talked about the 69 nautical miles you're able to go in a straight line from the North Pole of Polaris straight down one degree, one degree, one degree, all the way until you get to the equator correct, and stay in a straight line.

'''Flatzoid:''' The thing is Stars always travel east to west. Okay, you would agree that's taking a circular route.

'''David Sanch:''' Yeah, yeah, but you're you're not focusing on those Stars you're just focusing on Polaris.

'''Flatzoid:''' No, no, no, so if you no not Polaris I'm saying Stars so if you're focusing on following, let's say the Southern Cross which is taking, yeah a circular path east to west of the sky you are following that circular path you're not going straight.

'''David Sanch:'''No you want to just find what is rotating around and you go straight at that.

'''Flatzoid:''' So you're not taking a straight path so in other words it's taking...

'''Michael Khan:''' There's no star to look we we seen in itself that that thing that they say it's rotating around. There isn't a star there.

'''David Sanch:''' But you could, you could place your own imaginary Star right in the center and just travel towards that.

'''Michael Khan:''' You can because you you only see them rotating Stars when someone does a star Trail time lapse on a boat in South. You're not seeing Stars doing a circular motion.

'''Flatzoid:''' Yeah, you don't don't long exposure you don't do long exposure to look at stars.

'''Michael Khan:''' Only Stars the probably use that Southern Cross for navigation itself like Flatzoid says they're constantly moving.

'''David Sanch:''' So you're you're saying there 100% is no South Celestial pole?

'''Flatzoid:''' No not as what the globe claims.

'''Michael Khan:''' No cuz I know flat there.

'''Flatzoid:''' Yeah ceremonial there's no Geographic South Pole. Now David why you would like to disprove something which you can't.
</blockquote>
<ref>[https://youtu.be/MeJmAv-Uv_Q?t=6107 1:42:15 Flatzoid and David talking about the celestial South Pole <q>Let's have a talk</q> (March 16) by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

Here is a photo of the celestial South Pole taken at the South African Large Telescope.<ref>[https://www.salt.ac.za/galleries/photo-gallery <q>South Africa Large Telescope gallery</q>]</ref>

[[File:South-africa-star-trails.jpg|400px|link={{filepath:South-africa-star-trails.jpg}}]]

=== Lunar eclipses ===
Flatzoid claims that predicting lunar eclipses isn't globe based just because people were able to predict them centuries ago.<ref>[https://youtu.be/JUh9YEia40I?t=898 14:58 Flatzoid claiming that lunar eclipses are not based on the globe, <q>Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> As usual no flerf will ever present a working mechanism for how a lunar eclipse is possible on a flat earth. He is also completely ignoring that the people at the time at best predicted the date, but not the exact time and location. It's more drastic for solar eclipses, as unlike the lunar eclipses, solar eclipses are only visible for a small part of Earth.

Flatzoid doesn't realize that the exposure was different when the moon eclipsed. So the moon appeared brighter.<ref>[https://youtu.be/JUh9YEia40I?t=5264 1:27:44 Flatzoid not noticing the different exposure setting, <q>Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Lunar-eclipse.png|600px|link={{filepath:Lunar-eclipse.png}}]]

It's funny that for Flatzoid a slight adjustment is deception when Danny Faulkner does it, but when Dave Weiss rotated the camera by a lot more it's just accepted as valid. Bob the Science Guy shows that in his video.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vf_inssV3k <q>Does the Eclipse Shadow Disprove the Globe???</q> by Bob the Science Guy]</ref>

Here is an illustration showing how the shadow on the moon should look like according to the globe. Of course no flerf will ever show how it's supposed to look like on a flat earth, or how a lunar eclipse is even possible.

[[File:Lunar-eclipse-2025.png|600px|link={{filepath:Lunar-eclipse-2025.png}}]]

=== Stars ===
He is also claiming that the stars didn't change over the millenia.<ref>[https://youtu.be/JUh9YEia40I?t=944 15:44 Flatzoid claiming that the stars don't change, <q>Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> That of course is another lie. The stars did change over the years. Their positions are recorded in nautical almanacs<ref>[https://www.thenauticalalmanac.com <q>Nautical Almanacs</q>]</ref>, which Flatzoid of course never opened.

Polaris for example moved.
<blockquote>
* 1850: 88° 30′ 35.28″ with an annual movement of 19.27″
* 1900: 88° 46′ 26.72′ with an annual movement of 18.762″
* 2017: 89° 20.3′ annual movement is listed elsewhere in the almanac.
</blockquote>
<ref>[https://mctoon.net/polaris <q>Polaris motion</q> by MCToon]</ref>

The question which he will never attempt to answer is, how does he know what position the stars were a thousand or so years ago? At best we get an answer like <q> Look at the stars</q>.

=== Moon orientation ===
Flatzoid accidentally debunked the flat earth. He showed that the moon in South Africa is rotated, like the globe predicts, but not any flat earth.<ref>[https://youtu.be/JUh9YEia40I?t=5153 1:25:53 Flatzoid showing the moons orientation depends on your location, <q>Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Upside-down-moon.png|600px|link={{filepath:Upside-down-moon.png}}]]

== Aviation ==
=== Flatzoid doesn't understand down ===
Flatzoid reviews the discussion between Will Duffy and Wolfie6020. Wolfie explains the direction of down and what horizontal is on the globe.<ref>[https://youtu.be/fcFMB1YW-mM?t=5433 1:30:33 Flatzoid misunderstanding down and horizontal on the globe, <q>Wolfie attempts to help Duffy cope</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref> Flatzoid demonstrates once again that he doesn't understand up and down or aviation even when it has literally been explained to him a few seconds before. He thinks that all horizontals are parallel and that the pitch data to change when flying around the globe.

[[File:Flatzoid_down.png|400px|link={{filepath:Flatzoid_down.png}}]]

=== Gyroscopes and Artificial Horizon ===
At the same time in the video as for the previous claim, Flatzoid also claims that gyroscopes are set at the start airport and then just keep their orientation. At the end of the discussion between Will and Wolfie, Wolfie shows that the gyroscopes adjust according to gravity.<ref>[https://youtu.be/Wdc0WZuwJz8?t=2777 46:17 Wolfie explaining artificial horizon, <q>Aviation Proves the Globe! A Chat with Wolfie6020 (a REAL pilot!)</q> by The Final Experiment]</ref> Flatzoid didn't even get to that part of the video.

WheresWally made a video explaining Flatzoid's wrong understanding of the pitch data.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApmjXH0Tq0 WheresWally explaining pitch data, <q>fKatZoid's Jerkle's 11 Fails Interstanding Pitch Data as Will and Wolfie Destroy FE Claims</q> by WheresWally]</ref>

Dave McKeegan also made a video explaining pitch data.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRQceCzKX-E <q>Flat Earthers prove Flat Earth ... by not understanding airplanes</q> by Dave McKeegan]</ref>

== Cameras ==
=== Lens flares ===
Flatzoid doesn't understand that the lens flares will be the same after 24 hours when using the same camera pointed at the sun at the same angle, which is the case when the camera is mounted on a rotating tripod.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlkqf9rQzy8 Flatzoid not understanding lens flares, <q>WIll Duffy Lied about the 24 Hour sun video again!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

[[File:Lensflares.png|600px|link={{filepath:Lensflares.png}}]]

He also doesn't understand that different lenses result in different flares.<ref>[https://youtu.be/uwUNP55gb2Y?t=2324 38:44 Flatzoid not understanding lens flares again, <q>Can You REALLY Trust The Biblical Flat Earth Model?</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' The point I'm trying to make now is, look at the sun specifically. How it looks okay and we can compare it to actual footage from Antarctica, that's practically how it looks, but the ones we saw from their 24hour time lapses and stuff doesn't look like that.
</blockquote>

For comparison, here is a frame from the TFE trailer.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9PFKCnrcT8 <q>The Final Experiment Documentary - Official Trailer</q> by The Final Experiment]</ref>

[[File:tfe_sun_trailer.png|600px|link={{filepath:tfe_sun_trailer.png}}]]

And one from Dave McKeegan's 24h timelapse.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in0B1OQG3-M <q>Timelapse of the 24 hour Antarctic sun</q> by Dave McKeegan]</ref>

[[File:tfe_sun_timelapse.png|600px|link={{filepath:tfe_sun_timelapse.png}}]]

== Language ==
=== Community member ===
Flatzoid thinks he needs to apply to be a member of the flat earth community.<ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=11259 3:07:39 Flatzoid not understanding community, <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' Is anybody a member of the flat earth?

'''Janusz:''' Nope

'''Roger Ledwell:''' Where do we join, where do we join, where do we sign up?

'''PJ:''' I didn't say anything not a thing, I didn't pledge anything, didn't say anything. Nothing, I don't pledge allegiance to the flat earth.
</blockquote>

=== Insinuate ===
In his live stream <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q><ref>[https://youtu.be/0-0W5xaNQ8I?t=15612 4:21:00 <q>Albatross debunks the flat earth! Apparently</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>, a person called Frank told Flatzoid, how he was insinuating that Lisbeth is the village bicycle. Flatzoid's counter to that is that he didn't directly say the words: <q>Lisbeth is the village bicycle</q>. That demonstrates that he does not understand the word insinuate.

[[File:Insinuate.png|500px|link={{filepath:Insinuate.png}}]]

=== Airplane ===
According to Flatzoid airplanes are called that, because they are flying over a flat earth.<ref>[https://youtu.be/ijBUx-Ro48M?t=358 5:58 Flatzoid not understanding the word airplane <q>Bob The Science Guy's Pitch Data Excuse</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>
<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' You fly over a plane, yeah. It's called a aeroplane for a reason.
</blockquote>

The word aeroplane actually comes from the shape of the wings.<ref>[https://www.etymonline.com/word/aeroplane Etymology of aeroplane by etymonline]</ref>

<blockquote>
aeroplane(n.)

1866, originally in reference to surfaces such as shell casings of beetle wings, from French aéroplane (1855), from Greek-derived aero- "air" + stem of French planer "to soar," from Latin planus "level, flat" (from PIE root *pele- (2) "flat; to spread").

The word was later extended to the wing of a heavier-than-air flying machine. The use of the word in reference to the machine itself is first attested 1873 and probably is an independent coinage in English. Also see airplane. Ancient Greek had a word aeroplanos, but it meant "wandering in the air," from planos "wandering" (see planet).
</blockquote>



= Masons =

== Colors ==
=== Orange ===
According to Flatzoid wearing an orange shirt is a sign of being a mason.<ref>[https://youtu.be/JUh9YEia40I?t=614 10:14 Danny Faulkner wearing an orange shirt, <q>Lunar Eclipse and Danny Faulkner at it again</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' But that's the thing he gets called out for his Masonic shirts he keeps wearing and he keeps wearing specifically his orange shirts. What does that tell you guys?
</blockquote>

=== Blue and Red ===
Wearing blue or red is also masonic. <ref>[https://youtu.be/vPD-hUwrRtY?t=678 11:18 Witsit wearing a blue shirt, <q>To Question means you are not a truther!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' On Jeran's stream, which he literally had the same time as him, he was on Jeran's stream, he was wearing a red hoodie and then straight after went to start his streaming wearing a blue hoodie and that is again guys, sorry to say, linked to Freemasonry.
</blockquote>

== Putting your right hand on the bible ==

According to Flatzoid putting your right hand on the bible is a masonic ritual.<ref>[https://youtu.be/vPD-hUwrRtY?t=1314 21:54 Witsit putting his right hand on the bible, <q>To Question means you are not a truther!</q> by Creality Jesus Saves]</ref>

<blockquote>
'''Flatzoid:''' But you see the problem with what Witsit did now? Put, placing the right hand on the Bible is a um Authority Passage through Mas, Masonic, uh masonry. It's literally a masonic um ritual that you do to to show you have authority.
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== Nipples on ice ==
Taking a group photo with some people being topless is also masonic, according to Flatzoid or his viewers.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xhvYvFWps&t=452s 30:31 Dave McKeegan explaining the topless group photo, <q>A Flat Earth "Debate" - Dave McKeegan VS Flatzoid - Was The Sun In Antarctica Fake?</q> by Craig McNeill - FTFE]</ref>

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'''Flatzoid:''' The problem with that is it's based on a Mason ritual. Especially the the check, cuz it's shirt off, shirt on, shirt off, shirt on, and that's why everybody is saying, yeah it's based on on Freemason symbolism.
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Nathan Thompson

2025-02-27T17:36:53Z

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{{Infobox|realName=Nathan Thompson|image=File:NathanThompson.jpg|platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]|antisemite=Yes|religiflerf=Yes|drinksUrine=Yes}}

== Known Accounts ==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Platform !! Account
|-
| TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@enochoftiktok <code>@enochoftiktok</code>]
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| TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@therealnathanthompson <code>@therealnathanthompson</code>]
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| YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@bethechange7985 BeTheChange]
|}

== Other Info ==
* Uses [[Wikipedia:Sovereign citizen movement|sovereign citizen]] tactics and rhetoric.
* Known as Nathan "Pissboy" Thompson
* Was arrested and fined for trespassing on school property, while trying to proselytize the children.<ref>[https://youtu.be/cPMzk2AbVj0 "Proof That Flat Earthers Are Total Morons"]</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/a3s2DgtpxPI "Nathan Thompson Flat-Smacks Some Kids (Gone Wrong) {COPS CALLED}"]</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/AoPj2vdfi14 "Flat Earther Nathan Thompson Arrested for Flat Smacking School Kids"]</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/YJ-W7D413EY "Nathan Thompson issued a Tresspassing Order for every school in the county."]</ref>
* Has filmed and published videos of himself committing vandalism in stores, and harassing people in public.[Source needed]

== Notable Appearances ==
{| class="wikitable"
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! Date !! Venue !! Participants !! Link !! Notes
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| Feb 23, 2025 || [[Modern-Day Debate|MDD]] || Nathan v Will Duffy || [https://www.youtube.com/live/J4h19w-IcDM YouTube livestream] ||Did The final experiment end flat Earth?
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| Nov 1, 2024 || [[Modern-Day Debate|MDD]] || [[Angels of Light|Angel]] & Nathan v Peter Markley & PhD Tony || [https://www.youtube.com/live/cWy7YMDNqwA YouTube livestream] ||
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| Nov-Dec 2020 || [https://www.youtube.com/@RecklessBen Reckless Ben] || || [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwZ2x35GrBCT9iHMTIxCwbnLjDFK5HMbn YouTube playlist] || In part 5, was caught on camera spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories.
|}

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CC From Westchester County

2025-01-20T18:40:57Z

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| image = File:Cc_chris_from_westchester_county.jpg
| realName = Christopher Connell
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.youtube.com/@cc4561 YouTube]
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= CC (Chris from New York) =

'''CC''', known as Chris from New York, Westchester County, is a YouTube content creator who advocates for flat Earth theories. He is recognized for his distinctive video introductions and unconventional beliefs.

== Known Accounts ==
{| class="wikitable"
! Platform !! Account !! Status
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| [https://www.youtube.com YouTube] || [https://www.youtube.com/@cc4561 @cc4561] || Active
|}

== Other Info ==
* Famous for the intro: "Good morning, good evening, good afternoon wherever you may be. CC here. Chris from New York, uh Westchester County. It's <<current time and day>>."
* Believes static electricity proves flat Earth.
* In a live stream, his wife expressed frustration with his flat Earth activities, telling him to "stop the nonsense." ([https://wrqk.iheart.com/featured/the-stansbury-show/content/2020-02-16-this-flat-earthers-wife-has-had-enough/ ''This Flat Earther's Wife Has Had Enough''])
* Often featured in reaction videos by other content creators discussing flat Earth theories. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phC2y3mk1Wg ''Reaction Video by SciManDan''])
* Nominee for top left award 2022
* Won top left award 2023

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Kaleb Davis

2024-12-02T22:48:38Z

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{{Infobox|realName=Kaleb Davis|image=File:Kcdindustry.jpg|alias=Kcdindustry, kkkaleb, mein flerf |platform=[https://www.tiktok.com TikTok]|antisemite=Yes|religiflerf=yes|drinksUrine=Yes}}

{| class="wikitable"
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! Platform !! Account
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| [https://www.tiktok.com TikTok] || [https://www.tiktok.com/@kaleb.fe <code>@kaleb.fe</code>]
|-
| [https://x.com X] || [https://x.com/Kaleb5D <code>Kaleb5D</code>]
|-
| [https://www.youtube.com/ YouTube] || [https://www.youtube.com/@Kcdindustry Kcdindustry]
|}

=== Other Info ===
* Famously used a satire article as "evidence" that gravity is only a theory, then kept on doubling down on it
* Known for never blinking
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Dustin Nemos

2024-12-02T21:01:23Z

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=== YouTube Channel ===
* [https://www.youtube.com/@TheDustinNemos YouTube]

=== Website ===
https://nemosnewsnetwork.com/

Nasty individual who when he's losing debates will make a false allegation against them, then afterwards will knock the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

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Dustin Nemos

2024-12-02T20:55:17Z

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{{Infobox|realName=Dustin Krieger|image=File:Dustinnemos.jpg|location=US|platform=[https://www.youtube.com/ YouTube]| antisemite=yes|religiflerf=yes}}

=== YouTube Channel ===
* [https://www.youtube.com/@TheDustinNemos YouTube]

=== Website ===
https://nemosnewsnetwork.com/

Nasty individual who when he's losing debates will make a false allegation against them, then afterwards will knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

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