{{Infobox
| image= File:Beavster.jpeg
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

So far, Levi has exhibited his cowardice on multiple occasions. As mentioned previously, Levi created a 43 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG here.] Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream. When confronted, Levi blamed his cowardice on his unborn vacuum chamber experiment, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5753.PNG here] in more DM's with Dawn.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

File:Beavster.jpeg

2026-09-18T07:43:33Z

Bagelsofpies:

Levi Miller

2026-09-18T07:40:14Z

Bagelsofpies: /* Cowardice */

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

So far, Levi has exhibited his cowardice on multiple occasions. As mentioned previously, Levi created a 43 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG here.] Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream. When confronted, Levi blamed his cowardice on his unborn vacuum chamber experiment, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5753.PNG here] in more DM's with Dawn.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

Levi Miller

2026-09-18T07:39:26Z

Bagelsofpies: /* Cowardice */

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

As mentioned previously, Levi created a 43 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG here.] Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream. When confronted, Levi blamed his cowardice on his unborn vacuum chamber experiment, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5753.PNG here] in more DM's with Dawn.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

File:IMG 5753.PNG

2026-09-18T07:39:01Z

Bagelsofpies:

Levi Miller

2026-09-18T07:36:25Z

Bagelsofpies: /* Cowardice */

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

As mentioned previously, Levi created a 43 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG here.] Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

Levi Miller

2026-09-18T07:35:11Z

Bagelsofpies: /* Cowardice */

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

Levi created a 42 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG here.] Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

Levi Miller

2026-09-18T07:34:36Z

Bagelsofpies: /* Cowardice */

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver Beav-I
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

==Cowardice==

Levi created a 42 minute [https://youtu.be/BK4rODRrb9A?si=HPBJt3SEpfihj079 "documentary"] "debunking" TFE. After pedaling it on his livestreams, and refusing to engage with anyone who hadn't watched it, [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7677376427578117390?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7655493075426838030 Dawn Chorus recorded herself watching every minute of it.] Unimpressed with the claims from his documentary, [[Jeran Campanella]] sat in his guest request box for over an hour. Levi ultimately did not accept Jeran's request. Levi then denied a debate with Dave McKeegan, even admitting he will not debate him shown in [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward1.PNG this screenshot] from a conversation with Dawn. Upon hearing of his nonsense, Toon personally challenged Levi to his [https://mctoon.net/100000-antarctica-challenge/100k Antarctica challenge]. Despite initially seeming interested, Levi then ran from him for multiple days, shown [https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:Coward_runs.png here] and [ https://www.flerf.info/index.php/File:IMG_5752.PNG] here. Toon was blocked shortly after Levi's marathon sprint was completed. Toon proceeded to [https://www.youtube.com/live/da8BsSVbXYs?si=cSwb9VuIGvSNBYFN demolish his documentary], and openly invited Levi to join the stream. Levi did not join the stream.

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

[[Category:TikTok flerfs]]
[[Category:American flerfs]]

File:IMG 5752.PNG

2026-09-18T07:32:37Z

Bagelsofpies:

2026-09-18T07:01:35Z

Bagelsofpies:

{{Infobox
| realName = Levi Miller
|alias = Shape Debate Shit Debate Beaver
| location = US
| platform = [https://www.tiktok.com/ TikTok]
}}
Levi Miller is a TikTok flat earther who became active in 2026. He is known for calling himself "Smartest Flat Earther". Levi believes in a 2 pole flat earth map with Antarctica as a continent. Other than that he has not argued or presented anything remotely novel.

== Background ==
Levi claims to have graduated from Purdue with an engineering degree. He created his own web site to share information and videos about his flat earth beliefs. He also wrote a book called "Globe Deconstruction". Besides the usual flat earth nonsense and a seemingly a random collection of pictures and memes, part of the book asks whether the US civil war was fought over slavery. [[Dawn Chorus]] did a review of the book and posted it on her [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671772808036240654 TikTok page].

Levi will host one-on-one TikTok Lives where he speaks in a calm voice and tone; he usually doesn't shout or curse. He will have the slogan "Smartest flat earther you will ever meet" written on his background graphic.

== Flat Earth beliefs ==
Despite writing "Smartest Flat Earther" on his background graphic, Levi has a pinned video on his TikTok page where he states he "is not a flat earther but a demonstrable realist". Unfortunately for him the video provides demonstrable real evidence he is dishonest and clearly not "the smartest". Also, claiming not to be a flat earther is a common debate tactic because positive evidence for flat earth doesn't exist.

Levi shares many common beliefs of other flat earthers, one being a distrust of NASA. He believes and shares videos about supposed ISS fakery. He also has a distrust of the US education system, and says the schooling system is based on anti-reductionism - not proving how things work. Also teachers and students put too much trust in books: just believing them and not questioning what they believe.

Levi has some slightly different beliefs than other flat earthers. For one, he displays and uses a dual pole flat map. His map depicts Antarctica as a continent and not a ringed wall surrounding the earth.
Another difference is that he accepts Gravity in some sense; he has stated that density is not why things fall. He seems to accept that gravity is a plausible explanation of why there is a force pulling things to earth. (More information needed)

=== Rockets can't work in space ===
Levi believes there is reason to question whether rockets can work in a vacuum. He thinks space travel is not physically possible because it violates Newton's 3rd law. As evidence he uses the syringe video by [[The Action Lab]] to explain how it shows rockets can't work in space. In addition he recorded a video where he challenged Dr. Blitz to build his own vacuum chamber. Levi says he will give Blitz $3000 to do the challenge and test his beliefs.

=== Bottom-up obstruction ===
Levi has stated one of the biggest proofs for the globe is bottom-up obstruction, for example when the sun sets over the water. He claims to have seen and done tests where this is possible over a flat surface. He describes his test as having a camera 2" over water on a lake with a light the same height that gets pulled away from the camera. He says the light disappears bottom up after 400 feet.

=== The Final Experiment debunked documentary ===
Part of Levi's time on TikTok and his website has been devoted to debunking [[The Final Experiment]]. He even created a 43 minute "documentary" on how TFE was fake. He essentially believes it was faked somehow using video editing and the participants lied about the sun. However when asked to take [[MCToon]]'s $100,000 Antarctica Challenge Levi has refused. [[WhatKast]] asked him to talk to [[Dave McKeegan]] about TFE on TikTok but he refused that also. [[Jeran]] visited Levi's TikTok Live but was not allowed on panel. Dan ([[Unfornicated]]) talked about Levi's book and his statements regarding TFE on a [https://www.youtube.com/live/9imOfm5zAwM?si=O9Wx4mNb9IPyDfc6&t=8542 livestream].

As far as the documentary itself it is a rehash of what many other flat earthers have already said. The documentary uses spooky music and AI narrators with English accents demonstrating the hallmarks of a biased and cheaply produced video production intended to sway minds with vacuous innuendo rather than provable facts. It is often hard to follow because instead of having a logically coherent format the documentary presents information in a haphazard disjointed manner and is filled with deceptive claims like:

* TFE was ten years in the making
* There is evidence that the 24 hour sun in Antarctica isn't real
* There is an organized effort to keep flat earth secret
* Controlled opposition personalities are used to debunk flat earth
* Will Duffy is a "shadowy figure"
* There are difficult bureaucratic hurdles to travel to Antarctica
* The Antarctic treaty heavily restricts travel to Antarctica
* It's suspicious that the weather was good during TFE
* It's suspicious that people would want to debunk flat earth
* There is a repeated glare during McKeegan's 24 hour timelapse which is suspicious
* There are suspicious video effects in the footage
* Duffy has a "track record" of financial controversy and business scams
* Duffy was "presented" to the public as neutral businessman
* Duffy wasn't "new" to the flat earth debate
* Lisbeth's facial reactions during the golden ticket selection was suspicious
* It's suspicious that Lisbeth checked her camera before the winner was announced
* Lisbeth knew she was going to win and was giving a "performance"
* It's suspicious to create a speech about "if lying is inherently immoral"
* It's suspicious to ever say "sometimes lying is necessary"
* There have previously been controlled opposition agents in the flat earth debate
* Mark Sargent is controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent is another person
* Wearing a "I am Mark Sargent" shirt is proof of controlled opposition
* Mark Sargent's body language is evidence he is controlled opposition
* It's undeniable TFE was a hoax
* Unexplained video effects are suspicious and evidence of something
* The "cornerstone" of the expedition was the 24 hour sun timelapse
* The footage featured identical sequences of sun flairs and clouds
* There is a real possibility the sun was digitally added
* There was a video production team
(Made it about 15 minutes in, couldn't watch anymore)

After watching the documentary one wonders why make so many spurious claims rather than present actual evidence. Dawn also posted herself [https://www.tiktok.com/@dawnchorus3/video/7671440480802000142 watching] the documentary after Levi claimed that she would never watch it, and that if she did, she too would begin to question the legitimacy of TFE (she did not).

=== Website Claims ===
Levi's website lists some claims as some sort of introduction. These are copied right from the page:

<blockquote>
Claim #1 - Can objects completely disappear on a flat surface? 
Claim #2 - Do gas-propelled vehicles use surrounding gases for thrust? 
Claim #3 - Do all celestial observations match heliocentrism?

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #1 Objects can completely disappear across a flat surface even when there is no obstruction in between. Visual limitations with a long-distance surface have not been properly studied. Common mistake to avoid: not using a long enough surface (500+ feet minimum).

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #2 Mainstream physics is completely wrong in applying Newton’s third law to a pressurized gas release in a vacuum environment. Thrust must have something to push off, and an infinite vacuum does not provide that. If verified, this implies the law was abused to sell humanity on the idea of space travel. Common mistake to avoid: the vacuum chamber is too small; make it longer or use less gas to prevent the loss of a vacuum environment.

Geocentric Flat-Earth Claim #3There are too many red flags in celestial observations. The five hardest to ignore are the uniform light distribution of a full moon, moon-tilt illusion, selenelion eclipse, Jupiter’s moon shadows that fail to align heliocentrically, and the failed trajectory alignment during a solar eclipse. Together, they make a strong case that the Moon is self-luminous. If the Antarctica Final Experiment is confirmed faked by independent research, the game will be over.</blockquote>

== Known accounts and Website ==
{| class="wikitable" style="margin:left"
|-
! Name !! Platform !! Link to Account
|-
| Shape Debate || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@astroboy1741 Link]
|-
| Levi Miller (Not Active) || TikTok || [https://www.tiktok.com/@levigmiller Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || YouTube || [https://www.youtube.com/@ShapeDebate Link]
|-
| Shape Debate || Personal Website || [https://www.shapedebate.com/ Link]
|}

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Bagelsofpies:

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| realName='''T-Wrex Arms Tron(TWAT)'''
| alias=Tron SpongeBob SquareHead felicia Angel's Lap Dog Centenarian Tron Nice Moustache ''Many more...''
| image=File:SpongeBob SquareHead.png
| location='Merica
| platform=TikTok
| papa = Mister Hanky
| incel = yes
| religiflerf = Yes
| drinksUrine = YES, but puts his pinky up when guzzling
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| teeth = some, but all plastic
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Tron is a deflecting stooge that has arms like a T-Rex. He has one trick, Deflect.

He is well known for pulling a face like he has been sucking on lemons.

He is a grown ass man who is at least 100 years old, and he is on TikTok proving some people should stay in the background and be silent.

He Salivates over the likes of Shyte and Soli, which says enough in itself.

He is best known for kicking people simply because he can, and when pressed to provide evidence for claims, always says it is not handy.

Word has it that his family is so ashamed of him that they make him sleep in the dog kennel.

== List of aliases ==
Tron has earned himself many additional aliases (too many to fit in the infobox!). Here is a list of some of them.

* Shyte's Ban Hammer
* The Urophagia Oldie
* TikTok Tool
* No Top Lip Tron
* The Coprophagia Kid
* Delusions of Granbdad
* The Biggest Disingenuous Deflector

== Unnoticeable Appearances ==

*** To come, mostly from Whatkast

== References ==
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Bagelsofpies: Lady Jessica PFP

== Summary ==
Lady Jessica PFP